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if you listen to the PP (Spanish Tories) conspiracy theorists in Spain, the latest being the President of the Madrid autonomous region only yesterday, that wasn't Al Qaeda as they according to her never officially acknowledged it... hence it was ETA, hence Aznar -the hero of the Azores- didn't lie, hence Zapatero stole the elections 7 years ago ! :dozey:Quote:
Originally Posted by Brown, Jon Brow
That would be a bad thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob Riebe
Oh dear... :erm:Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob Riebe
I don't think Bob is that naive! :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Daniel
I think he is trying to point out that Al Qaeda say they will do a lot of things, whether they are capable or not.
Tell me which U.S. oil company has made money off of Iraq, come on, you can do it.Quote:
Originally Posted by schmenke
If you cannot-- oh dear http://www.motorsportforums.com/foru...milies/erm.gif
I wonder how efficient wiki-leaks is right now, it would be interesting to see if this is true or not, but other web sources give Panetta a lot of credit.
Now if Panetta ran for president, he could be a night-mare for Republicans.
Q: You stated that President Obama was “overruled” by military/intelligence officials regarding the decision to send in military specialists into the Osama Bin Laden compound. Was that accurate?
A: I was told – in these exact terms, “we overruled him.” (Obama) I have since followed up and received further details on exactly what that meant, as well as the specifics of how Leon Panetta worked around the president’s “persistent hesitation to act.” There appears NOT to have been an outright overruling of any specific position by President Obama, simply because there was no specific position from the president to do so. President Obama was, in this case, as in all others, working as an absentee president.
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I was correct in stating there had been a push to invade the compound for several weeks if not months, primarily led by Leon Panetta, Hillary Clinton, Robert Gates, David Petraeus, and Jim Clapper. The primary opposition to this plan originated from Valerie Jarrett, and it was her opposition that was enough to create uncertainty within President Obama. Obama would meet with various components of the pro-invasion faction, almost always with Jarrett present, and then often fail to indicate his position. This situation continued for some time, though the division between Jarrett/Obama and the rest intensified more recently, most notably from Hillary Clinton. She was livid over the president’s failure to act, and her office began a campaign of anonymous leaks to the media indicating such. As for Jarrett, her concern rested on two primary fronts. One, that the military action could fail and harm the president’s already weakened standing with both the American public and the world. Second, that the attack would be viewed as an act of aggression against Muslims, and further destabilize conditions in the Middle East.
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If true I think it's just the nasty truth of how re-election always impacts upon what governments do. Early in their terms they're happy to do thinks that are necessary and perhaps unpopular, but not as keen to do so later on in their terms.
You, then, tell us what the difference is, take your time, explain.Quote:
Originally Posted by Garry Walker
You are too bright there are you Bob?Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob Riebe
The invasion and indiscriminate use of artillery and air strikes on densely populated parts of Cristobal and Colon was to arrest one man on US drug charges..
Tell us Bobby-boy, when was a country invaded and thousands of civilians killed and wounded to arrest one person---in another country--on suspicion of no ativities done by the baddie HERE, but in another country?
Some were celebrating the murder of innocent civilians, the others responding to the death of the most wanted man in the western world.Quote:
Originally Posted by janvanvurpa
(why am i supporting the American right-wing here? :s )