The Gushing Oil Leak Disaster

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Originally Posted by racefanfromnj

has anyone seen the documentary or what ever it is called "who killed the elctric car"i caught it on Encore channel. It had some intersting points about the "conspiracy" between GM the oil companies{i didnt catch any named company} and the stateof California, to get rid of the car .It was interesting

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It is also fiction.

You think if the technology to make an electric car as good as any gas one was out there, the carmakers wouldn't PAY through the nose to get one on the market?

You would have to be out of your MIND to think they wouldn't, and GM's EV project was EVERYTHING that the green weenies wanted. It was a full scale trial, with a car that had practical ideas, being test marketed in America by ordinary Americans, in a state VERY friendly to the technology and one with a green conscience. With all that, no one wanted a car that had a range of 100 miles, was useless in REALLY hot weather (A/C killed the batteries) or really COLD weather (You notice they didn't test this sucker in New York City or some place WITH winter). The car cost a fortune, so GM would never make any money assuming anyone would buy one of these things for 4 times the cost of the gas powered car...

Oh ya..that movie...great movie if you like stupidity.....

If one can believe the air-ways, the U.S. citizenry is actually pointing fingers in the correct directions.
They find British Petroleum responsible for the spill, but find President Obama to be totally to blame for the asininely inept way the response has been handled.

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Originally Posted by Bob Riebe

If one can believe the air-ways, the U.S. citizenry is actually pointing fingers in the correct directions.
They find British Petroleum responsible for the spill, but find President Obama to be totally to blame for the asininely inept way the response has been handled.

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Most people are smart enough to know Obama didn't create the problem, but he has been a spectator and it is obvious...

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Originally Posted by Bob Riebe

If one can believe the air-ways, the U.S. citizenry is actually pointing fingers in the correct directions.
They find British Petroleum responsible for the spill, but find President Obama to be totally to blame for the asininely inept way the response has been handled.

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The obvious question then is "What do you want him to do about it?"

This is a quite highly technical sort of problem, and besides which, BP have spent more than a billion USD in trying to solve the problem:
http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2010...ritain-BP.html

This is also quite apart from the fact that almost 45 days ago:
"In response to the BP oil spill, the Secretary of Defense is authorizing under title 32 the mobilization of the Louisiana National Guard to help in the ongoing efforts to assist local communities in the cleanup and removal of oil and to protect critical habitats from contamination. As the responsible party in this incident, the government will hold BP accountable for the costs of the deployment."
-Pentagon spokesman Geoff Morrell, May 1.

The National Guard was deployed, I mean short of invading the UK (which is the usual response), what do they expect the President to do? Have a giant chip fry up with all the oil?

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Originally Posted by Rollo

The obvious question then is "What do you want him to do about it?"

This is a quite highly technical sort of problem, and besides which, BP have spent more than a billion USD in trying to solve the problem:
http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2010...ritain-BP.html

This is also quite apart from the fact that almost 45 days ago:
"In response to the BP oil spill, the Secretary of Defense is authorizing under title 32 the mobilization of the Louisiana National Guard to help in the ongoing efforts to assist local communities in the cleanup and removal of oil and to protect critical habitats from contamination. As the responsible party in this incident, the government will hold BP accountable for the costs of the deployment."
-Pentagon spokesman Geoff Morrell, May 1.

The National Guard was deployed, I mean short of invading the UK (which is the usual response), what do they expect the President to do? Have a giant chip fry up with all the oil?

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National Guard-- good grief.

He has done nothing.
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Jones Act Slowing Oil Spill Cleanup?
June 10, 2010 - 5:41 PM | by: Brian Wilson

"Foreign companies possessing some of the world’s most advanced oil skimming ships say they are being kept out of efforts to clean up the oil spill in the Gulf because of a 1920’s law known as the Jones Act -- a protectionist law that requires vessels working in US waters be built in the US and be crewed by US workers.

Joseph Carafano of the Heritage Foundation has been studying the matter and wonders, “Are we accepting all the international assistance in the maritime domain that we can, and is the Jones Act an impediment to that?”

The Coast Guard and the Administration are quick to point out that some foreign technology is being used in the current cleanup effort. Including:

- Canada’s offer of 3,000 meters of containment boom

- Three sets of COSEQ sweeping arms from the Dutch

- Mexico’s offer of two skimmers and 4200 meters of boom

- Norway’s offer of 8 skimming systems

But that is largely technology transferred to US vessels. Some of the best clean up ships – owned by Belgian, Dutch and the Norwegian firms are NOT being used. Coast Guard Lt. Commander, Chris O’Neil, says that is because they do not meet “the operational requirements of the Unified Area Command.” One of those operational requirements is that vessels comply with the Jones Act.
"Yes, it does apply,” said ONeil,“ I have heard no discussions of waivers.”

Waivers to the Jones Act were granted by the administration of George W. Bush in the days following hurricane Katrina. And today, the Obama White House said waivers might again be considered.
“If there is the need for any type of waiver, that would obviously be granted,” said White House Spokesman Robert Gibbs. “But, we've not had that problem thus far.”

Democratic Senator Bill Nelson is not so sure about that. He’s hearing from the folks back home in Florida, where they want all the skimmer ships they can get. He sent a letter to Admiral Thad Allen today which read in part:
“Admiral, I believe the orange mousse of oil that is now in Florida’s waters is more than enough evidence that we need to take advantage of every appropriate global resource. Please advise as to whether we are taking full advantage of the offers of assistance from other countries.”

When asked about this by Fox News, Admiral Allen said, “If it gets to the point where a Jones Act waiver is required, we're willing to do that too Nobody has come to me with a request for a Jones Act waiver.”
After 50 plus days of oil flowing freely into the gulf, the question could be asked: Why do effective and proven foreign clean up ships remain on the sidelines? Carafano believes it may have something to do with the Obama administration’s close relationship with labor unions.

“Cause this is a big thing for unions,” Carafano said. “The unions see it as … protecting jobs. They hate when the Jones Act gets waived, and they pound on politicians when they do that. So … are we giving in to unions and not doing everything we can, or is there some kind of impediment that we don't know about?

If the Obama Administration needs an example of what can happen when global assets are allowed to tackle a massive oil spill, they need look no further than Saudi Aramco’s clean up of a massive wartime spill off the Kuwaiti coast in 1991. Aramco summoned every available ship to assist in the cleanup. The company claims it recovered 900,000 barrels of oil in roughly three months. The industry views that effort as the gold standard in oil spill cleanups."

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Originally Posted by Mark in Oshawa

Most people are smart enough to know Obama didn't create the problem, but he has been a spectator and it is obvious...

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Since I live far away from the disaster, watching the constant news coverage, I felt like a spectator too :( .... then I did something about it. I filled up the bathtub, poured a can of oil in it and created my own natural disaster!... And I used BP oil too so I can collect one of their recovery checks. ;)

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Originally Posted by AAReagles

Since I live far away from the disaster, watching the constant news coverage, I felt like a spectator too :( .... then I did something about it. I filled up the bathtub, poured a can of oil in it and created my own natural disaster!... And I used BP oil too so I can collect one of their recovery checks. ;)

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Is an unprecedented cleanup operation now underway to restore your pristine bathtub to its former state? :p

I'm still trying to convince CNN to send in the Anderson Cooper media assault-team.

This disaster may be the last, I wouldnt worry too much about it.

Oil drilling will be the past, no need to drill as we have SO MANY holes now, soon well be lifting it by bucket and engine.

Oil crisis? does not exist...

If you take an engine and a bucket, drop the bucket down a well, and winch up some oil, at only 30mph the bucket will take only 2 minutes to reach the surface using NEXT TO NO PETROL!

Compare this to current pumping methods which uses A LOT of petrol to operate the pump.

Theres over 4000 pumps in operation just in the gulf alone, theres a lot of work to be done changing over, but the saving from needing to pump SHOULD help the enviroment and our pockets too.

Think about this, it's very funny.

If you take a rope and a bucket, and winched it up by hand, lets say it would take half hour to walk the 1.5 miles lifting 50 litres of crude oil, take that to a refinary. how much would you get? it's £90 a barrell which is 154 litres so your make about £30!

Not bad for HALF HOURS WORK LOL :)

If the oil companys are not cruel to us, then oil prices might drop to 1/4 or about 25p a litre!!! Fingers crossed!! :)

Please don't quote me on this... im guesstimating, or some might say dreaming... zzzzzzz

Heres a link to a past forum post showing my invention...

http://www.scienceforums.net/forum/s...ad.php?t=43951