Webber--dirty driver and hypocrite

Great move by Webber, he defended his position really hard, but it was a very fair move.
I really dont understand the bitching.

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Originally Posted by Garry Walker

Great move by Webber, he defended his position really hard, but it was a very fair move.
I really dont understand the bitching.

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What bitching, no bitching here, we are all friends now :)

some of you are going to far it will blow up in your face
i will make sure of it

http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/09/1...n-rules-video/

now show me the lewis thread for this one
http://www.dailymotion.com/swf/x6rp0t

your kidding right?

did you see lewis turn his wheel to cut off the road
or did you see webber come up to be side by side then turn "his wheel" into hamilton before correcting

come on now

a better example was the hamilton glock incident that same race which i do think was rather borderline by Hamilton

The question whether the move is legal or not will leave someone "dead" right if they keep on.

Guess 150 posts, time for me to join the fun...

How people can defend the in-defense able always amazes me. How can anybody suggest it wasn't a dirty move? where was Webber going, to get a better view of a fan or something? maybe there is a Tim Hortons drive-through at pit exit?

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Originally Posted by thunderbolt

some of you are going to far it will blow up in your face
i will make sure of it

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Aren't we a little beyond hollow threats?

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Originally Posted by thunderbolt

http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/09/1...n-rules-video/

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Thanks thunderbolt, just enough in there to hang yourself:

Unwritten rule 4: A defending driver may move off-line once to defend his position and then move back to his original line on the way into a corner, but cannot push a rival on that line off the track

Now I really hate it when Hobbs is right over on speedtv, but he did comment that Webber had made 2 moves, which is almost impossible to see with out watching the move frame by frame. But Webber did pause his momentum going towards pit side of the track (even if for only some 3 frames on my dvd players frame advance) but enough to run afoul of this "un-written rule"

Edit: I Believe the unwritten rule is in regards to only 1 move to defend a position. the author of that story added more to make it fit his story. Either way, allowed 1 move to defend, Webber made 2...

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Originally Posted by thunderbolt

now show me the lewis thread for this one
http://www.dailymotion.com/swf/x6rp0t

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wasn't the clip in the your first link good enough? Wanna know why that clip his hardly comparable? First, we are talking a dispute going into a corner, the "un-written" rule concerning this is... the driver ahead gets the racing line. Now did you notice it was a drying track? So we can clearly see Hamilton following the dry racing line. and with Webber on the wetter part of the track, its equally likely that Webber had some control issues as well.

Now to dig up a link to the thread about someone pushing Massa towards pit wall... remember the outrage... Massa was almost over the white lines!!! PENALTY!!! :p :

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Originally Posted by PSfan

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Originally Posted by thunderbolt

http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/09/1...n-rules-video/

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wasn't the clip in the your first link good enough? Wanna know why that clip his hardly comparable? First, we are talking a dispute going into a corner, the "un-written" rule concerning this is... the driver ahead gets the racing line. Now did you notice it was a drying track? So we can clearly see Hamilton following the dry racing line. and with Webber on the wetter part of the track, its equally likely that Webber had some control issues as well.

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Ok, was that a wet track, or just a really crappy video? now I'm not so sure, which race was that from, maybe I might have it on dvd... :p :

http://www.foxsports.com.au/story/0,...-23770,00.html

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Fernando had a run on me down the pit straight.
I tried to force him to my outside, but he dived into the pit lane exit - and onto the grass - on my inner and was through.
I knew that I had to re-pass him immediately, otherwise my race would be ruined, so I outbraked him five seconds later into turn one. It was a good move and, crucially, it ensured that I was in free air for the opening stint of the race.

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Originally Posted by studiose

Hehe, thanks! I must admit it did feel very lonely at one point, and I almost caved at one time, at around post #66. But then much-needed reinforcements arrived in the form of Markabilly and especially Fousto, and after that it was much easier.
Oh dear God, we must find something better to do with our time! :laugh:

I have to say, though, that never did I think I was trolling, as Ent suggested. I really don't like what Webber did. I know it's not a popular opinion, but it's mine. ;)

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Man!! if you are relying on markabilly and fousto as reinforcements, then you are in deep poo poo. You will get the George Custer feeling very soon. :p :

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Originally Posted by Bagwan

There were only inches to spare , but Mark left him just enough room .

Fernando was committed , knowing Mark would relent if he was along side .

Classic gun fight .

Inches farther , and Mark would have been a real dick , as Fernando would have been even farther onto the grass .
Being on the grass was Fernando's idea , obvious from the screen shot of Fernando there gardening , because there is enough room to have his wheels on the white line , with Mark where he was .
He was very close to the dangerous line , but within the limits of how hard you can expect a competitor to race .

Some have given props to Alonso for being brave , and well deserved , but Mark should also be given his , because he raced hard but fair .
They both had to trust each other completely , and expect each other to race to the limit , but not over .

All in all , a beautiful pass , hard won .

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Interesting you should say that. Because from my calculations there were 66.5 cm's between the two cars in which Nando had to play with. More than enough space for him to not be on the grass.

Good on Nando for staying with it and good on Webber for giving him space in the end. Nando was on the grass for only a second. Probably because he hadn't anticipated Webber giving him road back.

This thread should be closed. It's embarrassing.