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Surplus 207s surprises me, Skoda have quite a waiting list for Fabias at the moment.Quote:
Originally Posted by MJW
The other thing awaiting confirmation is whether the 1.6T engines will be based on road car units or will be bespoke designs. Latter IMO does not stick to the spirit of rallying and would surely be more expensive?
i dont think there are 30 sitting in a shed somewhere waiting to be sold. They probably have a business plan to sell 200, and 170 are sold.Quote:
Originally Posted by MJW
As far as I have understood the DS3 chassis will be based on S2000 regs. They just do not want to use resourses to make one S2000 and one 1600T engine version.
The other aspect is the World Engine. Will be very interessting to see what happens tomorrow. If they now allows N4 based cars again, then I give up !
What's wrong with that? One big class with S2000, S1600T and N4. They will never have as many manufactures as now... PWRC could be changed to an R1 class, which mean true (and affordable) production class.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sulland
Because this has been ruled out from the start of the process, until right before the final meeting.
Questions aroused based on the article in gpweek (page 16).
“As from January 2010 Super 2000 cars will be allowed to be wider, and from January 2011 new Super 2000 cars will only be homologated if they are fitted with a 1.6 turbocharged engines”.
What will happen to IRC? No more new manufacturers in IRC after 2011? Why is Ford developing a S2000 car?
“The World championship rules say that as from the start of 2011, WRC cars shall come from Class N4.”
If the new engine format is 1.6T, how can the cars come from class N4 (2-litre turbo engines)? Does the “from class N4” mean that from the beginning of 2011 the class N4 cars have a 1.6T engine?
“As things stand, manufacturers can run cars in one of three different formats: current Super 2000 (2-litre normally aspirated) form, 2011 Super 2000 rules (1.6 litre turbocharged) or orthodox turbocharged Group N cars.”
If from January 2011 the Super 2000 cars must be fitted with a 1.6T engine to get homologation, does it mean that the “2-litre NA format” cars are cars homologated before 2011? Does it mean that the performance of the 1.6T cars are at same level as current S2000 and N4?
I just hope FIA for once make a set of rules that are simple, simple, simple so everyone can follow and understand.
I am not very optimistic, since they normally are being pushed by the factories.
If they can get a standard ECU into the rules, then more teams can win, also privat teams. If not standard ECU, still only a few possible winners = boring and predictable rallies.
Look at how much IRC have managed to do in a few years with a simpe set of rules, and cars you can buy to start a team that with the right driver can win.
FIA; surprise me tomorrow !!
The new WRC 2011 is still probably S2000 + kit (aero bits + more boost)
Super Production will probably comprise N4 and S2000. Not sure how you equalise N4 2.0l turbos, S2000 1.6l turbos and S2000 2.0l....
With restrictor and minimum weight limits.Quote:
Originally Posted by bt52b
It's not really that simple though is it since different engines and chassis specs will still perform differently in different situations.Quote:
Originally Posted by jonkka
This whole thing seems messier than ever reading the last few posts :(