Briatore on Brawn drivers & credibility *merged*

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Originally Posted by christophulus

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/74624

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(Brawn) said his drivers had struggled to keep heat in their wet tyres as effectively as the Red Bulls had.
"We were struggling with tyre temperature after the safety car came in," Brawn explained. "That may have been a factor because when the cars came out after pitstops it didn't seem too bad, and when we could got temperature it was okay. Rubens actually had the fastest lap."

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Load of crap from Ross.
Button was 20 seconds behind Vettel after his last pitstop and ended up more than 40 seconds adrift at the end, with no SC in between.

Also if tire pressure was the problem why did they chose not to change Rubens tires at the lat pit stop?

Ross is trying to cover up for the drivers not being up to the task, and it's normal one's a pensioner and the other is a curbstone compared to Vettel.

Jenson is good when everything is right but that's it. I have a feeling he wouldn't have won in Sepang if the race would not have been stopped, so getting only 5 points was some divine justice.

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Originally Posted by tamburello

Barrichello was and is a waste of a competitive seat...once again failing to maximise a brilliant car.

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Speaking of waste... I think Flav should look closer at home. The biggest waste and discredit to F1 is his own driver.

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Originally Posted by Dave Brockman

one Renault driver went from 2nd to 9th and the other will probably have finished by Tuesday afternoon.

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be fair now dave, he went from 2nd to LAST before the race as such even began, and then back up to 9th :)

still, could have been 6-7th but for a spin too many :dozey:


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I don't know about the car comparison between Red Bull and Brawn GP in the wet, but I definitely do rate the RBR driver line-up higher than Brawn's. Actually, IMO Red Bull has the best driver line-up in F1 at the moment. Feel free to disagree. ;)

But Button and Barrichello have proved to be quick wet weather drivers in the past, so there isn't an exact reason to dismiss their performances either, although... considering that Rubens is getting beaten by Jenson even by a bigger margin than he did by Michael years ago, I suspect RB's better days may be over...

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Originally Posted by jens

I don't know about the car comparison between Red Bull and Brawn GP in the wet, but I definitely do rate the RBR driver line-up higher than Brawn's. Actually, IMO Red Bull has the best driver line-up in F1 at the moment. Feel free to disagree. ;)

But Button and Barrichello have proved to be quick wet weather drivers in the past, so there isn't an exact reason to dismiss their performances either, although... considering that Rubens is getting beaten by Jenson even by a bigger margin than he did by Michael years ago, I suspect RB's better days may be over...

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He was fasted driver around that circuit in the dry. Enough said, he's picking up the points aswell.

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Originally Posted by F1boat

I certainly hope that the F1 teams cheat less that the Serie A teams... although highly offensive. And while the insults to Jenson and Rubens and Glock are simply a matter of bad taste, this Naka thing is horrible, almost racist.

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What the hell was RACIST about what flavio said about nakajima? Crazy.

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Originally Posted by jens

I don't know about the car comparison between Red Bull and Brawn GP in the wet, but I definitely do rate the RBR driver line-up higher than Brawn's. Actually, IMO Red Bull has the best driver line-up in F1 at the moment. Feel free to disagree. ;)

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Ok, I will! :D

In the words of an old Michelob advert...

'Some things, speak for themselves..."

DRIVER STANDINGS

01 Jenson Button 21
02 Rubens Barrichello 15
03 Sebastian Vettel 10
04 Timo Glock 10
05 Mark Webber 9.5
06 Jarno Trulli 8.5
07 Nick Heidfeld 4
08 Fernando Alonso 4
09 Heikki Kovalainen 4
10 Lewis Hamilton 4

CONSTRUCTOR STANDINGS

01 Brawn-Mercedes 36
02 RBR-Renault 19.5
03 Toyota 18.5
04 McLaren-Mercedes 8
05 BMW Sauber 4
06 Renault 4
07 STR-Ferrari 4
08 Williams-Toyota 3.5
09 Ferrari 0
10 Force India-Mercedes 0

just think hes an an italian ass thats a sore losser and cant stand the fact the fact a new team like brawn is winning already and his team is not winning like they USE to. i dont hear alonso making a fuss nor Jr. end of the day it upto him and his team to get better and catch brawn gp and pther teams up...end of

Has anyone thought that perhaps the thing that has made Brawn so dominant so far is exactly why they were not so good in the wet?

What I mean is, that their performance has everything to do with tire temperatures. In the dry, you try to get your tires up to temp fairly quickly (which in F1, most of that work is done by tire warmers) then you try to keep them "cool". That makes the tires "happy" and last for a long while.

The reverse is true in the rain. YOU NEED ALL THE HEAT IN THE TIRES YOU CAN GET. I don't know how to stress that more. Tires make grip with heat. Water strips heat from tires. If you can warm up the tires you are better off. Well it appears that the Brawn is a very nice car from the tire's point of view. That is a VERY good thing in the dry, but not so good in the wet.

The lack of testing in the wet that they had, means that they didn't know exactly how to change the car to work in the wet. They took a good stab at it and came up second best on the day. Not too shabby, if you ask me.

But that explanation doesn't then explain why they won in malaysia?