Donkey of the Race (Canada GP Edition)

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Originally Posted by Gary Walker487557

Because quite frankly, no other driver is as arrogant, hyped, manufactured and unlikeable as he is.
It is really shocking how I (and no doubt countless others too) have gone from liking him so much at the beginning of last year, to disliking him so much now

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I don't know how he's doing in the popularity department, but I have to agree with the rest of that statement!

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Originally Posted by Bezza

I have to agree with Garry Walker!

I did also like him back at the start of 2007, but gradually he has become immersed in his own ego - not helped by the media, who think he can do no wrong and label every mistake he makes as "His first mistake". I can think of at least five big mistakes he has made, yet they are all referred to as his first one!

He simply believes his own hype, and therefore won't accept responsibility for mistakes, preferring to blame "the rules".

The guy previously was confident. Now he's just arrogant. There is a big difference.

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A very sane post :up:

i think lewis should keep his mouth shout or face a fine

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But Hamilton insists the decision is an unfair one, saying his manoeuvre was an accident. He said: “I start 10 places back in the next race. It’s harsh, I didn’t aim to ruin anyone’s race.”
The red light in the pitlane was on as part of F1’s safety car rules. It is used when the safety car and following field are passing or are about to pass the pitlane, to avoid accidents. But Hamilton said: “The rule is silly. We are in the race, how can you red light at the end of the pit-lane? But that’s the rule and I accept it.”

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don't the have rules about bringing the sport into disrepute
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Originally Posted by truefan72

it is pointless trying to discuss anything of substance about this matter, as some folks around here will only read what they want to or see what they want to.The issue is too complex or intricate for some here to graps or willing to look beyond their own dislikes so no matter what one says, it will always be percieved in the lens of that perception.

To those unable or unwilling to face certain realities in today's world or those who cannot detach their dislike of Michael Schumacher from criticism of his performance then so be it. It may be asking too much from some of you here to leave out the added gusto of insults, bad nicknames, and downright silliniess when discussing Michael Schumacher. When the discussion deteriotes to the fact that his apology wasn't humble enough for some, or goes of into pointless insults, thats were I take issue.
not about the incident, or about the penalty

So its probably best to move on and discuss France and the upcoming race.


cheers

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I've made a couple of changes to your post, hope you don't mind.

Hamilton fans are now experiencing some of what Schumacher fans went through for years. We had to put up with all sorts of rubbish that meant that we often defended him when we probably shouldn't have merely as a reflex for all the meanigless criticism he got for every little thing he did.

In part this is just the nature of sports and sports fans. It's easy to defend those you like and even easier to criticise those you don't. The hard bit is being completely objective all of the time. I don't think there's a person on the planet who's capable of that.

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Originally Posted by Hawkmoon

I've made a couple of changes to your post, hope you don't mind.

Hamilton fans are now experiencing some of what Schumacher fans went through for years. We had to put up with all sorts of rubbish that meant that we often defended him when we probably shouldn't have merely as a reflex for all the meanigless criticism he got for every little thing he did.

In part this is just the nature of sports and sports fans. It's easy to defend those you like and even easier to criticise those you don't. The hard bit is being completely objective all of the time. I don't think there's a person on the planet who's capable of that.

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:up:

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Originally Posted by donKey jote

I guess it could also depend on whether your carbon brakes are warm enough to actually brake properly :)

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I think my Toyota Corolla brakes would work at 80kph (assuming I was paying attention to the lights) ;)

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Originally Posted by Bagwan

What does Nico say ?
“I think I deserve the penalty, the same as Hamilton. He didn't stop, and neither did I, so we deserve the same fate. I saw the red lights too late, so it is natural that there is a penalty. I made a mistake,”

“Of course, if Hamilton had slowed, I would have been able to better understand what was going on. But he kept going, and then suddenly ... "

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Thanks, Nico for admitting you're human! Not many drivers would admit they made a mistake nowdays. (Of course it probably means you're too nice a guy to ever win the WDC - I hope I'm wrong.)

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Originally Posted by Hawkmoon

I've made a couple of changes to your post, hope you don't mind.

Hamilton fans are now experiencing some of what Schumacher fans went through for years. We had to put up with all sorts of rubbish that meant that we often defended him when we probably shouldn't have merely as a reflex for all the meanigless criticism he got for every little thing he did.

In part this is just the nature of sports and sports fans. It's easy to defend those you like and even easier to criticise those you don't. The hard bit is being completely objective all of the time. I don't think there's a person on the planet who's capable of that.

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Originally Posted by wmcot

Thanks, Nico for admitting you're human!

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I hope you're wrong about Nico and the WDC too :) and it's good to see he's accepted the penalty imposed as well. Neither he nor Hamilton had any other option seeing as they were at fault.

However, he's apparently said to http://www.motorline.cc that: "In my whole career I have never watched the lights at the pit exit" which (if the translation I've seen is accurate) is a rather strange thing to admit.

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Originally Posted by Hawkmoon

I've made a couple of changes to your post, hope you don't mind.

Hamilton fans are now experiencing some of what Schumacher fans went through for years. We had to put up with all sorts of rubbish that meant that we often defended him when we probably shouldn't have merely as a reflex for all the meanigless criticism he got for every little thing he did.

In part this is just the nature of sports and sports fans. It's easy to defend those you like and even easier to criticise those you don't. The hard bit is being completely objective all of the time. I don't think there's a person on the planet who's capable of that.

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I thought a lot of the anti-Schumacher stuff on here was equally intolerable, but this doesn't justify some or most of the comments being made on here about Hamilton. This would be the case if Schumacher had followed Hamilton into F1, rather than vice versa.

For the less partisan enthusiasts amongst us, the atmosphere continues to be made very unpleasant.

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Originally Posted by ArrowsFA1

I hope you're wrong about Nico and the WDC too :) and it's good to see he's accepted the penalty imposed as well. Neither he nor Hamilton had any other option seeing as they were at fault.

However, he's apparently said to http://www.motorline.cc that: "In my whole career I have never watched the lights at the pit exit" which (if the translation I've seen is accurate) is a rather strange thing to admit.

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He may never have had to before, of course.