Re: [WRC] News & rumours (part II)
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Originally Posted by Rallyper
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I think Meeke still deserves a fair chance to prove his capabilities in WRC car. He has shown excellent pace in the two rally's he could do in WRC car this season. I think Matton would make the right choice to put him into Citroen. Anyhow, there are not too many drivers around who can make better times then Meeke, at least no drivers who are available. ;)
Agree with this totally. Anyone who says meeke has had his chances in wrc is talking out their ass, hes never even had a full season in wrc. Btw do we even know yet if kubica will even be in wrc next year?
Here we are again. Are you Meekes PR-consultants or what? There are many drivers without seat that might deserve a steering at Citroen besides Meeke. And I don´t mention PG one more time for an example. Many more there are.
No im not his PR guy anymore , i used to be but he fired me for not getting him a full time seat in 2012 and 2013 unfortunately :laugh:. Being serious though, Im not the only person who thinks meeke is citroens best option now with the better drivers in other teams. Some of the suggestions youve come up with are laughable or all scandinavian . If citroen want a 'steady eddie' to finish rallies, bringing the car home in 7th or 8th they should hire chardonnet as he has a good track record of finishing rallies it appears. But i somehow doubt citroen are looking for that. Rallyper take your blinkers off man, if you seriously believe wilks, evans, PG, tiedmand, paddon etc are better option next year for citroen than kris. Kris has downsides but he is a better driver atm than those youve mentioned, other than the retired loeb :) .
Re: [WRC] News & rumours (part II)
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Originally Posted by litifeta
what a joke. no more R4 cars for Europe. That should satisfy the Euro manufacturers who are unable and unwilling to build something remotely like the car they race, for consumers.
It doesn't look like Mitsubishi and Subaru want to continue with production cars in new generation. We shall prepare for all N4/R4 disappearance in the future.
Re: [WRC] News & rumours (part II)
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Yes, the young talents need to prove themselves in WRC2 first before thinking of WRC. It is the next logical step in drivers evolution. Loeb and Ogier are just exceptions jumping from junior champions right into WRC and have all that is necessary to be on top, that's just how amazing these drivers are. Probably there is a young driver out there capable of doing this, but it is big gamble before proving it right at least for 1 year.
When JWRC had proper support it was enough to step up. No feeder 4WD category was needed. As You mentioned - Loeb, Ogier or Sordo didn't need any step between. WRC2 seems to be more a category for wealthy gentleman drivers with only few exceptions from the rule.
Re: [WRC] News & rumours (part II)
Loeb and Ogier did not step directly into big factory nominated team either. On Loeb times, there were still 3 cars nominated and it was possible to enter him as third car (On first season, Citroen did not take part the whole season as well). Moreover, Loeb did even some rallies with Corolla WRC in 2000 (Sanremo and Corse).
Ogier had frist start in GB and then he had almost the whole season as Citroen second team. I do not remember anyone in recent history who has just come.. done 0.3 rallies with WRC and popped in Manufacturer team for all events. The pressure would be too big.
Re: [WRC] News & rumours (part II)
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I think Meeke still deserves a fair chance to prove his capabilities in WRC car. He has shown excellent pace in the two rally's he could do in WRC car this season. I think Matton would make the right choice to put him into Citroen. Anyhow, there are not too many drivers around who can make better times then Meeke, at least no drivers who are available. ;)
No im not his PR guy anymore , i used to be but he fired me for not getting him a full time seat in 2012 and 2013 unfortunately :laugh:. Being serious though, Im not the only person who thinks meeke is citroens best option now with the better drivers in other teams. Some of the suggestions youve come up with are laughable or all scandinavian . If citroen want a 'steady eddie' to finish rallies, bringing the car home in 7th or 8th they should hire chardonnet as he has a good track record of finishing rallies it appears. But i somehow doubt citroen are looking for that. Rallyper take your blinkers off man, if you seriously believe wilks, evans, PG, tiedmand, paddon etc are better option next year for citroen than kris. Kris has downsides but he is a better driver atm than those youve mentioned, other than the retired loeb :) [/quote]
You still don´t understand what I mean. I don´t say they are better options in the first place, only that they can be mentioned at the same time you say Meeke. (Eg. I started comparing with PG).
I just want to point out there are more drivers than just MEEKE.
Nordic dreams? Yeah in a way, but I try to be serious as well. Forgot though: Lappi, Kubica, Novikov, Ostberg, Breen ... All are drivers without us knowing if they have a seat.
Re: [WRC] News & rumours (part II)
What about Tänak? He is trying to get a seat too. :rolleyes:
Re: [WRC] News & rumours (part II)
If I'm the boss in company and tell worker to do important job properly and worker twice 'properly' scr€€w up, would I give him a job? No. So why to put Meeke in works seat if he doesn't pay for it?! Also to be IRC and WRC champ is different.
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Re: [WRC] News & rumours (part II)
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What about Tänak? He is trying to get a seat too. :rolleyes:
Tänak's 2012 season was similar to Neuvilles, same amount of points in the end of the year. Power stage win in France on tarmac and podium in Italy on gravel. That was his first ever season in world rally car and he had no testing at all between the rallies. I think he deservs a second chance. But that is just my opinion.
Re: [WRC] News & rumours (part II)
In addition, the Peugeot Rally Academy, created by Peugeot Sport in 2013 to showcase emerging talent, will enter Dutch driver Kevin Abbring and Irishman Craig Breen in a pair of R5-specification 208 T16s on several rounds of the ERC.
- Extract from ERC News
Now this will be a good indication of whether either of these young men can step up to WRC in late 2014 or for 2015.
Citroen should also be considering Chardonnet, Gilbert, Weijs jr. and Ancian as Al Q stand-ins to gauge their progress
I've been impressed with Abbring's style whenever I've seen him but I think a regular top line co-driver could make all the difference.
