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Too right!!! No one would be allowed to get close to petit Seb. They must be OBEY and submit to Citroën rule. Petter does not have the right personality to sit back and let the other man win. Just look at what they have done to him this season. Citroën is a French team, for French drivers, to sell French cars. No one else is allowed.Quote:
Originally Posted by alleskids
Petter for VW. The manager of PS engineering FX, is already working for VW, as seen in Finland.
How about Hanninen in Citroen... hard time for the crying behind sunglasses arrogant junior ;(
and what happened and a few years back they had colin mcrae as No1 and Sainz as No 2 ??????Quote:
Originally Posted by Griff
Of course then Loeb came as 3rd driver and ridiculed them so badly that led colin to unemployment and then act like a circus clown in the US and Sainz back in his million dolar mansion.
Peter has nothing to offer to a works team as a second driver he doesn't have the skills to beat the fords consistently.
As for Hanninen in Citroen, far too risky choice for citroen....better let the VW get the gamble with him and meanwhile offer a good contract to Loeb and win the manufacturers title in 2012 with hands in pockets once more...
Back in 2002 Loeb was just a young talented driver, not capable yet of winning championships. Citroen is in WRC for winning, so they brought in the next available star drivers, McRae and Sainz, who challanged each other. Citroen however prefers French drivers, so when Loeb became the star driver he is no he became ontouchable, until an other French driver (Ogier) became a star driver. They could tell Belgium Duval and Spaniard Sordo to back off, but the French media and French bosses of PSA do not pick when a Frenchman has to back off for an other Frechman.Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
Ford and VW or open for any nationality as long as the driver is winning rallies and bringing some budget. Citroen is how ever French-orientated and wants/prefers a French winner.
Nobody said Duval to back off.
After all they do not win much lololQuote:
Originally Posted by alleskids
stories from the star trek universe...Sordo to back off...LOL Duval to back off LOL...Sordo was ordered to back off just once and when the championship title was at stake...EVERY team would do the same and did the same in the past.Quote:
Originally Posted by alleskids
Duval was the worst personality the WRC ever had to face.... thats why he ended unemployed eating hamburgers and still living off his daddys money.
Its very funny that all these incompetent people were at their caves when Loeb was winning the titles and now that the best driver of all times is about to retire soon they start to bring fake stories and mud with them....
their is a saying in greece which goes
"Δρυος πεσουσης πας ανηρ ξυλευεται"
which in a free translation is
When the big tree is down any kind of man can have a go at it.
And what about VW saying that they would like a german driver in the their team ??? they are nationalistic as well i guess....i wonder why....
You're talking bull****.
at least i made you post something longer than your usual +1 and "good for him" stuff....so i am happy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Barreis
Go, work something. :D
In Greece we also have those rich useless kids where their daddy buys them a company to have something to do... nice to see we have some methods that are the same as in developed european countries.
As for your stories from the star trek universe...you have any evidence that those orders were implied or you just post random lies ??
in 2005
duval was 32 seconds slower after 4 stages LOL
In 2007 same story for Sordo.... LOL Lies all the way
NEWSFLASH
Team orders were not invented by citroen they are implied by teams since the 70s...
But the pain Loeb and citroen has caused all these year to girl fans around the world caused them to become blind and lobotomised as well...
last post from me about the subject in this thread...we are way off topic and we do not offer anything that fans do not know already.
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Originally Posted by N.O.T
... said the self-declared sage...
I dont really understand this fuss about teamorders, they asked Kankkunen about team orders some time ago, he said he has been given away about 10 wins, but also been given a few, he also said that if you work for someone you have to do like they want if that is impossible to understand, then better to change job to something else.Quote:
Originally Posted by tommeke_B
well if Citroen had a non-french driver as fast and capable of winning on any surface as Loeb or Ogier, in the team, he would have had the same treatment!Quote:
Originally Posted by alleskids
Duval was really fast, the only thing was that he crashed way to much! Sordo was also really fast on tarmac but not enough on gravel. To me, they deserved their 2nd (or 3rd for Duval) driver seat but they were in no way capable of beating Loeb fair and square. (and again: Thats only MY opinion)
Finally some sense!Quote:
Originally Posted by Tomi
Duval's problem was confidence, sure he knew he was likely to always be #2 in that team but sometime he made these silly errors and it seemed to snowball from there to the point where it became apparent he was not the driver he once could have been.
Sordo was slightly different in that he took a long time to get decent, consistent speed on gravel.
Duval had so many off's because he tried/wanted to be faster than Loeb and was driving over his limits ... simple as thatQuote:
Originally Posted by I am evil Homer
Imagine Loeb in 2003. First full season. His team mate? Carlos Sainz en Colin McRae! The citroen wasn’t then the best car. But he beat Sainz and McRae and finish 2d in the championship for just one point. He just made his leadership in the team. And everybody could do the same thing over Seb, French or not. If Ogier beat Loeb today sometimes, it’s not because he’s French, but because he’s better than Duval or Sordo. Maybe his French nationality helps a little for confidence… OK.
Loeb deserves every win he has been and he proved that in the last rally.
Agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by cali
Hey, Maybe we can go back to news and rumours?
Starting with one link: Rallying Young Guns: The Quest to reach the Sebs! on Vimeo
It is documentary film about two young Estonian rally drivers (Plangi and Kruuda) and their co-drivers. Very good quality, 42 minutes pure joy. I just thought that it would be nice to replace this "feature driver " section in WRC show with similar short view behind the scenes..
Sorry for those who have already seen it in Video section and Rally Estonia section
I watched it yesterday...really liked it!Quote:
Originally Posted by bluuford
Very interesting... you have quite promising drivers in Estonia in my opinion ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by bluuford
Also Kruuda is a quite funny guy :D
Thanks.Quote:
Originally Posted by G. Morales
Here's a longer text about the documentary project, sort of like a blog I kept during filming - LINK
If Loeb leaves I was wondering what would happed to Elena?
You should not wonder about such things....
we have numerous examples of what happens to co-drivers when their long time driver retires...
Can someone explain why Loeb is seen with Chevrolet at with WTCC?
Scoop - Sébastien Loeb a testé la Chevrolet WTCC*! | Divers
he will quit rallying and drive at WTCC next year with chervolet.
Quesnel is stupid, wants to rid of the best rally driver in the world.
I think Loeb should do a different sport... Like.... Tennis! Yes Tennis! ^_^
no he will quit as well and become manager at Chevrolet as well.
no his childhood dream was to become a lemans driver...rallying is just a hobby.Quote:
Originally Posted by GigiGalliNo1
Gymnastics trainer?! ;)
if you like to joke about those things why you posted such a stupid question ???? what was your aim when you asked if someone know why he tested the WTCC car ??? to stir things up for the drama girls ???
Loeb tested a red bull f1 car also some time ago....what was the meaning of that back then ??? Can rally driver do things just for fun or as part of sponsorship deals ???
Posting the news was a good thing...asking stupid questions doesn't contribute anything.
Like they used to say here in Estonia, '' There are no stupid questions, there are only stupid answers''Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
Your answer was very stupid, troll
Because he can? And because anyone in thier right mind would take the chance to try out a different form of motorsport! ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by GigiGalliNo1
Ok ok ok :)
Mate! He was only joking ;) Chill your beef!Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
I must admit, seeing Loeb testing a touring car was the last thing I expected. Would be intersting to see, also(if he goes into circuit racing) I expect BTCC to gain some more fans in the shape of citroen/loeb wrc fans, so probably a good move for everyone!
Seeing Loeb in the Chevrolet WTCC car, interesting.. I guess Quesnel finds it interesting that he does it in full Citroen gear :D
Quesnel is stupid and has silly voice. To rid of the biggest talent in history of WRC?!?
And he cried at Le Mans:-)Quote:
Originally Posted by Barreis
JML cried more times. :D