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Where can we make offerings to see a Monte Carlo under this conditions?

When I saw this photo

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I instantly recalled this one

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I wonder if the´ve done some small "crashtests", for example by letting the rear wheels touch the roadsides and all that can damage wheels, just for knowing which part brokes first. You might find failures which you can prevent happening in the future rallies...?

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Originally Posted by Rallyper

I wonder if the´ve done some small "crashtests", for example by letting the rear wheels touch the roadsides and all that can damage wheels, just for knowing which part brokes first. You might find failures which you can prevent happening in the future rallies...?

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Jari has just few weeks with vw.Give him some time :p

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Originally Posted by Rallyper

I wonder if the´ve done some small "crashtests", for example by letting the rear wheels touch the roadsides and all that can damage wheels, just for knowing which part brokes first. You might find failures which you can prevent happening in the future rallies...?

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I think they have done and will do for sure some testing but nowadays suspension geometries are quite boring and current simulation tools are quite clever in this kind of cases. Also individual component/subassembly design can also be reliably evaluated without full car. About all the cars are using same kind of simple suspension geometry, materials etc. so there is not room for very big (reliability) improvements to be made there in my opinion.

One old story.. Marcus has been telling several times that when he was at Peugeot he had a certain favourite jump in Finland that they used every year to test front struts before Finland and many times Marcus used the "opportunity" to find the limits and struts came trough the hood :) .

nice video from vw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...=iIr1_R7j71U#!

Latvala interview
eWRC.cz - Jari-Matti Latvala o Polu WRC, Ogierovi a sezon 2013

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Originally Posted by vkangas

I think they have done and will do for sure some testing but nowadays suspension geometries are quite boring and current simulation tools are quite clever in this kind of cases. Also individual component/subassembly design can also be reliably evaluated without full car. About all the cars are using same kind of simple suspension geometry, materials etc. so there is not room for very big (reliability) improvements to be made there in my opinion.

One old story.. Marcus has been telling several times that when he was at Peugeot he had a certain favourite jump in Finland that they used every year to test front struts before Finland and many times Marcus used the "opportunity" to find the limits and struts came trough the hood :) .

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You are fully right but still the reliability shall be verified in life conditions. You know the Murphy's law that whatever can fail, it fails? :D I know that from my job. If there is some little maybe, in the end it always happen :) I remember being said that when Škoda tested Fabia S2000 prior homologation they let the cars out on freeze, running them over motorways to testing locations etc. just to make every possible scenario to happen.

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Originally Posted by Mirek

You are fully right but still the reliability shall be verified in life conditions. You know the Murphy's law that whatever can fail, it fails? :D I know that from my job. If there is some little maybe, in the end it always happen :) I remember being said that when Škoda tested Fabia S2000 prior homologation they let the cars out on freeze, running them over motorways to testing locations etc. just to make every possible scenario to happen.

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Agree 100% Real life conditions are always the best way to test. Also in my job... :)

Sorry for OT, maybe the best job in the world (not mine unfortunately...)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=La03k7FzlZA

These VW lot aren't messing around are they. Everything they have put out there so far has been fantastic. Cant wait for Monte Carlo.