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4th January 2012, 15:49
noel157

Any UK people read M News yet? Anything of interest in it.
4th January 2012, 16:11
MJW

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Originally Posted by noel157

Any UK people read M News yet? Anything of interest in it.

Nothing that you dont know already, most of the info is well known, fundamental part of it was Prodrive were to land a sponsor to pay - that hasnt happened. Lots of bending over backwards by FIA to allow a single car entry for 10 rounds.
4th January 2012, 18:02
AndyRAC

So all the bashing of BMW is quite unwarranted - hmmm, Prodrive drop another clanger. First the AMR-One, now this.
4th January 2012, 20:21
Nornbugger

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Originally Posted by noel157

https://p.twimg.com/AiTjosXCMAEuAC3.jpg

silly title from MN, any fans are disappointed rather than furious, my bet is that they are using provocative headlines to sell a paper that will have nothing new in it
4th January 2012, 23:36
Plan9

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Originally Posted by EightGear

Mini confirms entry for 2012 World Rally Championship - WRC news - AUTOSPORT.com

Mini confirms WRC entry!

I found this particularly interesting as it highlights some of the concerns I raised earlier surrounding BMW's worry about NOS issues.

What do you guys think will happen after 2012/13? Will Prodrive dump the Mini chassis and pick up another project or will BMW allow Prodrive to continue with Mini but perhaps with a different model?

How will Prodrive develop the engine without BMW support?

Does anyone know if any mini's will come to NZ???
5th January 2012, 04:56
N.O.T

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Originally Posted by Plan9

I found this particularly interesting as it highlights some of the concerns I raised earlier surrounding BMW's worry about NOS issues.

What do you guys think will happen after 2012/13? Will Prodrive dump the Mini chassis and pick up another project or will BMW allow Prodrive to continue with Mini but perhaps with a different model?

How will Prodrive develop the engine without BMW support?

Does anyone know if any mini's will come to NZ???

so many questions....
5th January 2012, 08:46
cali

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Originally Posted by tommeke_B

I'm quite sure Prodrive is capable of developing a good engine... They developed the engine of Subaru's also, and the engine was known to be the best point of the car, some say that the S12-engine is probably the best WRC-engine ever built.

Remember Peugeot 307?
5th January 2012, 09:36
RS

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Originally Posted by rallyfiend

Eurosport struggle to sell their own products in the IRC and WTCC outside their own channels. Why would this be a good thing for the WRC that is currently broadcast on so many other channels?

IRC and WTCC are entirely their own products whereas WRC has the cache of being a full FIA Championship. There is nothing that says if Eurosport gets the rights they can't continue to sell it to other channels too but what Eurosport have which other organisations (such as NOS) don't have is their own channel which is available around the globe at reasonable or no cost.

In the UK for example I think moving from ESPN to Eurosport would be a very positive move. F1 might be able to get away with it but rallying just does not have enough pull to the general public to command expensive subscription charges as has been proved by the dreadful ESPN viewing figures.
5th January 2012, 10:29
rallyfiend

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Originally Posted by RS

IRC and WTCC are entirely their own products whereas WRC has the cache of being a full FIA Championship. There is nothing that says if Eurosport gets the rights they can't continue to sell it to other channels too but what Eurosport have which other organisations (such as NOS) don't have is their own channel which is available around the globe at reasonable or no cost.

In the UK for example I think moving from ESPN to Eurosport would be a very positive move. F1 might be able to get away with it but rallying just does not have enough pull to the general public to command expensive subscription charges as has been proved by the dreadful ESPN viewing figures.

WTCC not a full World Championship?!?!

How many manufacturers has Eurosport attracted to that series recently?! Would you say that this is a shining example of promotion?
5th January 2012, 11:37
RS

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Originally Posted by rallyfiend

WTCC not a full World Championship?!?!

How many manufacturers has Eurosport attracted to that series recently?! Would you say that this is a shining example of promotion?

Fair point about WTCC but I don't really follow that series so can't comment more on that.

But for WRC, I don't see how Eurosport cannot be a massive improvement on the current regime. Who wouldn't want the kind of live coverage we have seen in IRC on a channel that is much more accessable to most?

It is not only the fans wallets this affects. Look at Mini - they have a competitve car but can't even justify throwing a few million at the project.

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