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Toyota don't deserve to win either title this year; absolute inept man management from them. Their supposed No1 full time driver hasn't had the full support from the 'part timers' when he needed it. And while he hasn't had a great year driving wise, you'd think drivers who aren't in the full championship would be willing to help him to gain points over Neuville when possible. But no......
Well it was before Cyril tok over. He is a bright guy and knows that as someone point they have to invest in future.Quote:
Originally Posted by rp
At the same time one have to be realistic. At that time Hyundai haven't provide Oliver a proper Rally1 car, that was a tired test chassis, a boy trying to do a mens job so difficult to expect if you do not provide the proper tools.
It also has to be said that Oliver probably hasn't been ready at that point and could manage that situation a little bit different. Peter his dad hasn't helped him as well mixing up from the side and finally he had to be removed from the service park course he was distracting for Oliver. But now things are totally different and even JML said in interview wit Colin Clark that he is ready. Unfortunately there is and will not be any seat for hem in Toyota in near future so Hyundai is his only option unless he will organize backing to drive for M-sport.
However from Hyundai stand point Formaux is probably a better ( read safer) option course he is a proven Rally1 driver and with his French background he will probably fit better to that team. The unknown thing for next year is actually Neuville.I suspect that if he will win a title he might be very temtempting to do a time part program course you have no pressure, do rallies you want and are sett to win them. He said not so far ago that at he moment Ogier and Kalle has much more fun and it is something to seriously consider in the future.
Latvala is just there for PR and interviews. There is no way he goes to Ogier or Kalle to say them how or what to do..Quote:
Originally Posted by rp
Lindstrom and Fowler are the main guys there..
+ I hope that Fourmaux won't go to Hyundai.. disaster car..
Unfortunately I have to agree. It is a little bit sad to see actually that he is not getting any support but there can be some things that we do not know. Judging from Pajaris outing maby they already decided to drop him for next year in Pajaris favor.Quote:
Originally Posted by AndyRAC
How would "support from the team" and his teammates prevent him from DNF'ing due to mechanical trouble and mistakes?Quote:
Originally Posted by AndyRAC
Mechanical trouble not but mistake yes that was mainly due to that he had to fight for Sunday points with his teammates
Teams don't give a rat's ass about drivers title. Their focus is on manu title. Ogi and Kalle help to take points for Toyota and Evans' changes for title is so secondary.
can you add Fourmaux? how many points?thanksQuote:
Originally Posted by cosmin_sb
Fourmaux 45Quote:
Originally Posted by manthey
If I were Fourmaux, and I had a full drive at M-Sport in prospect, I would be leery about Hyundai. They seem like a Bermuda Triangle for promising careers. He should get a big pay rise and a cast iron contract to drive every rally before he thinks about it. And then he should think carefully.
This is what Ouninpohja should look like ! Great job !Quote:
Originally Posted by SubaruNorway
(The RallyTV coverage of it was garbage. All they showed of any excitement was the yellow house jump and even that wasn't well-filmed. Any casual viewer would wonder what all the fuss was about... )
But that's what Malcolm's business plan is that he supposed to get his return when Fourmaux is off to another manufacturer for big bucks and it seems that he is ready now. As I understand he is already talking and from rally to rally his cards getting stronger and stronger.Quote:
Originally Posted by Morte66
Did they modify the article? I don't read these words aboutQuote:
Originally Posted by WRCStan
On 30th of March I posted this: "Just watch how WDC moulds up around the driver who is destained to earn it - small things that go right way, small "luck" moments etc. This is Thierry year! After 57 seasons he is finally on the track to become a champion - it comes his way. Lets hope he does not f.... it up.".
Seems I was right - events around him point to one direction. Even though I wanted Tanak to win, i would be ok with Neuville also.
It is still a long way to go a d that tricky Japan can throw few surprises. But at least he has a buffer now.Quote:
Originally Posted by AndersX
I was being sarcastic for those trying to convince me earlier that the things you and I both cannot read here are actually happening.Quote:
Originally Posted by manthey
But yes they have edited out a lot of text where he apparently blamed the points system for being the reason he is reluctant to compete.
Very sad situation.
Fourmaux would fit in to the Hyundai car very well as a Frenchman and he also has a good relationship with Thierry. It is the best driver Hyundai can hire for the next season... But from his perspective, it is a big risk..
Nobody is gonna replace evans by pajari. Depending on what ogier and rovanpera will do they might put him in the 3th or 4th car.Quote:
Originally Posted by turdzi
I know this is really besides the point and a bit off topic but I really hope Toyota take notice next year and make a livery somewhere in-between the lines of Rovanperä ‘s car, Pajari’s & Latvala’s pretty cool red rally 2 Yaris.
This! The black "livery" is horrible.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eli
Pajari livery looked awesome in real life.
The black Toyotas are so meh
That’s why I liked Rovanperä‘s livery, was a good mix in-between although the white car i.e. Pajari’s will always look cool (as long as the door handles are white too, sounds silly but it makes all the difference). Just think how many times we’ve seen the WRC new generation cars (whichever generation) in PET for Monte-Carlo and we say in this Forum, “this white test car with black/white alloys looks so good”.Quote:
Originally Posted by becher
So you already know that Sesks is faster from Adrien at gravel slow rallies?Quote:
Originally Posted by mknight
I am not so sure...
We have to wait to see Sesks at more rallies, before jumping to conclusions .
Pictures Secto Rally Finland 31.07-04.08.2024
Shakedown, SS5, SS13 and SS18
https://samzon.kuvat.fi/kuvat/Secto+...Finland+08.24/
By this logic, the one who is faster on fast rallies, can actually be slower on slow rallies? Sorry, what?! Only experience of surface and how hard you can push to find the line makes difference.Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
Yes indeed... it hasn't grown on me at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by becher
It may look reasonable in photoshoots, but in real life it's awful You mostly just see the big white G on the side with the R blending in to the black.
https://toyotagazooracing.com/-/medi...07-day1/01.jpg
It's possible. For example, Neuville is mostly faster than Evans on slow gravel rallies, Evans is mostly faster than Neuville on fast gravel rallies.Quote:
Originally Posted by AndersX
Maybe the characteristics of the cars come to play as well - Toyota better on the fast stuff and Hyundai better on the slow stuff, hence the difference in the pace of the drivers..Quote:
Originally Posted by focus206
even thinking some of the liveries were "meh" (maybe too simple?) i still rather having that than 3 or 4 cars all painted the same.
Why not, finding and properly executing perfect line through stage with mostly straights and fast corners seems quite different than doing it on stage where there is one slow corner after another.Quote:
Originally Posted by AndersX
yes plenty of times we have seen this.As we have seen the opposite.Quote:
Originally Posted by AndersX
Photos of the crashed cars in Finland. What a testing rally ! :disturb:
https://www.instagram.com/p/C-LSJIsI...d6a3NqNWk0ZGY2
That's a silly statement. Have long have you been following rallies?Quote:
Originally Posted by AndersX
And to you question. Just check Sesk's stats on ewrc and you will see what dimviii meant.
Indeed it's a "looks fine in the studio shots" but shite in real life.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
I don't like it even on photos. Never did. For me it's the worst works team livery since I follow the sport.Quote:
Originally Posted by becher
Good one. 100% more than most here, my question is not silly, because you can teach fast driver to adopt to slow roads, but you can not get slow driver to be more brave and faster on very fast roads. Fast gravel is a cornerstone of rally by its nature and history. Another point - not all can adopt and control 1 mil worth cars. Even in F1 you see guys who dominate lower series, but fail when F1 opportunity arrives. Both Pajari and Sesks showed that R2 pool has some good, high potential drivers and that WRC is shooting in its legs by giving these opportunities so rarely. Promoter is changing it and that is good for the rally.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
Me neither but it's a recurring theme with liveries that the people responsible for them come up with something (mostly dark/ish/black) and think it looks fine but once it's on TV it looks like those people don't know what they are doing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
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One question: What about Loeb?Quote:
Originally Posted by AndersX
You can't teach talent nor bravery, but none of the top rc1 driver lack any of that.Quote:
Originally Posted by AndersX