They won't get fast here by crashing on the first day. You don't get the experience by that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rallyper
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They won't get fast here by crashing on the first day. You don't get the experience by that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rallyper
They wasnīt in Ypres to crash. They are there for win. In WRC2. Not WRC3, actually. And without experience, too...Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
I admit, as a teamboss meybe Iīd give some advices picked up from local heroes, but doubt itīd helped much...
This is at least a decade old discussion which you can find even here on the forum if you follow previous Ypres editions. The thing is that there was a guy named Freddy Loix who won this event ten or eleven times. Nearly every year he won in IRC or ERC there was the very same talk: "Loix won by pure luck. Others were faster, they were just unlucky." Yet it was still the same Loix who was lucky and the same others who were unlucky. There is one thing you can learn from that: It is always possible to go faster but it counts only if you can come fastest in the finish of the event. Even Neuville and Breen failed several times in this very same way before they finally learned how to drive here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rallyper
None of these ever actually won a WRC or ERC tarmac rally in R5 afaik. So among the fastest R5 drivers yes, but not tarmac aces. ( Well Gryazin can be faster than anyone...until crashing)Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
Suninen was leading, with 22s to first Belgian before the off. After Friday it was Rossel, Solberg +17. I don't count Rossel as Belgian but I dunno how those French rallies he did look like. In either case he is still in close fight for win.
It's not like the Belgians don't crash (Vanneste, Princen, Tsjoen...), it's that there are many of them with very similar pace.
Anyway my main point was the crazy WRC2 gaps, much bigger than even on most gravel rallies.
Did I say anything about luck? Did I say they were unlucky? Read once again before starting to yell...Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
I said they are up there bcs of experience. Or rather the other way around. Top guys lack of experience.
I never even said local heroes couldnīt dominate. Because I never was thinking about that matter.
The past editions have shown over and over again that results after the first or second loop are of little importance.Quote:
Originally Posted by mknight
My piece of offtopic - most of the times when I see Mirek in action in this forum: http://goodnewsplanet.com/wp-content...575E5F424.jpeg
Not sure, maybe it's already posted here, but 2000 EUR fine for Taka because didn't press "ok" button in 1 minute after crash.... (Facepalm!)
https://twitter.com/HartusvuoriWRC/s...588288/photo/1
GG with technical problems. Driving in roadmode.
He's been loosing time consistently throughout the day so yeah I imagine.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sulland
There was just a regroup midday today right? No service?
There was a service. Oliver said the car was working when leaving the service but the power steering stopped working again after some 5-6 km of the first stage in the second loop.Quote:
Originally Posted by itix
Oliver said that they tried to fix it. It had function on the liasion and a couple of Kīs on first stage but failed again after that.Quote:
Originally Posted by itix
Edit: you were first, Mirek... :) :)
What an impressive performance from Oliver and aaron this afternoon...
Another superb day for Rovanpera - a great example of how to drive when you're young, with low experience and never driven a rally here before.
Quite a good sum up. See you tomorrow, all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
Is there electric or hydraulic servo on the i20s?
Ogier's time for SS 10 has been adjusted again;
SS 10 – DIKKEBUS 1
Following the Clerk of the Course Decision No. 12 on the allocation of a notional time for all cars affected by
the interruption of SS 10, the Clerk of the Course
DECIDES
to apply Art. 52 of the 2021 FIA WRC Sporting Regulations and reallocates the times as follows:
Car No. 1 6.25.6
Based on those marks of liquid on Oliver's windscreen I guess hydraulic.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sulland
Katsuta's crash from the outside in the comments on this one
https://www.facebook.com/rallyemag/p...59926329559973
I think they used the results of the second run of that stage to create the notional time. The thing is just that Ogier likely wouldn't have performed so well on the morning loop due to road cleaning. Evans was faster on all the three other morning stages.Quote:
Originally Posted by satnav
Could it be a electro-hydraulic device?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
Based on the splits of SS 10, Ogier was faster from Evans and Rovanpera by some margin.Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
Maybe, they had evidence that he would be faster also at the finish of the stage.
I'm like 99% sure that Ogier didn't pass a single split. Katsutas accident was like 1km from the start :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Yugo_para_siempre
Hopefully from next year when the WRC promoter also has ERC they can persuade the FIA to scrap this WRC2/3 divide and instead have works supported drivers in WRC2 and true privateers/young guys in ERC.Quote:
Originally Posted by mknight
You are correct.Quote:
Originally Posted by Essaj
My bad, I am sorry, I was confused, from another stage.
Please ignore my previous comment.
Joost his video!
https://youtu.be/oCKTJxB9zIM
Yes I agree, excellent from him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
Suninen can not continue tomorrow. What a disaster for M-Sport in WRC2 also and both drivers made mistakes. Time to find new paying drivers!
i agree. i didn't excepted him to make it so far, but he has pleasantly surprised me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
Itīs unbelievable how Kalle is able to drive as fast as Evans & Ogier with so little tarmac experience with the World Rally Car. Super talent indeed, but of course he is already the WRC winner!Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
Im a Kalle fan, but Ive still been blown away by his pace and flawless performance. Impressive job to be so equal to the more experienced teammates in this difficult event where many young drivers ended up in the ditch.Quote:
Originally Posted by rp
Hopefully he can keep it on the road tomorrow, in any case, he's been mightily impressive here considering the fact he has significantly less experience on tarmac than his team mates with a WRC car.Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
What i believe is his main advantage here is that ogier and Evans have just as little experience. Except for breen and neuville this is a virgin rally for everyone.Quote:
Originally Posted by rp
Butt no matter what, i'm impressed by kalle.
Teemu Suninen Racing
@TeemuSuninenRac
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3h
Waving black flag Sadly we won't be able to continue the #YpresRally tomorrow. This is to avoid causing any further damage to the overheated engine. But we found a good feeling with the Ford Fiesta Rally2 this weekend and even had the confidence to push, and set fastest times once again.
Fin level for Belgian spectators
https://twitter.com/BjornStorme/stat...50525664260099
It has been said before, this scenario is typically Ypres. But I'm impressed by those who are able to break the trend.
Rovanpera is unbelievable in his car control at such a young age. At Dikkebus 2 he took a series of downhill kinks so beautifully. You think he's losing it, but he just uses a bit more of the road. To do that constantly is impressive. It's a joy to watch.
Tanak as well. I'm dissapointed he had that puncture, because he was driving smart.
Neuville does what he has to do. You notice he's more at ease with the cuts, bumps and grip changes. And speed doesn't bother him at all. Where others left brake, he goes flat.
Breen is amazing and I would like him to fight for the win, but sadly that won't happen. I've seen him yesterday drifting like 10 centimeters away from a concrete pole on the outside after a fast blind corner. Brave but also insane! He really deserves a fulltime seat.
Ogier isn't doing bad, but his whining kind of annoys me. So it probably blurs my judgement. :)
Fourmaux, Loubet, Greensmith, Katsuta are the victims of this rally (and many more). The crash from Katsuta was at a weird spot. I didn't see the beginning, but the end looked really bad with that group of spectators there. Luckily everybody got away. Someone heard Katsuta tell to Ogier he didn't expect a bump there and couldn't turn in. Pretty incredible they got that pole out of the way in that amount of time.
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It feels like I am saying this in every rally. It's a though life being a Loubet-fan :)Quote:
Originally Posted by TypeR
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Now think about all estonians or Tänak's fans in general. At least we got year 2019 :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Myrvold