How's the situation with championship's points. Does anyone care to share the standings
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How's the situation with championship's points. Does anyone care to share the standings
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#WRC points after #RallyTurkey:
@ElfynEvans
97
@SebOgier
79
@OttTanak
70
@KalleRovanpera
70
@thierryneuville
65
@EsapekkaLappi
38
@TeemuSuninenRac
34
@Craig_Breen
25
@SebastienLoeb
24
@GreensmithGus
16 #WRClive @rallyturkey
Thanks DimviiQuote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
Evans leading WRC after multiple rallies... Who would have thought that at end of 2018 when he had a terrible season while Ogier won title in same car.
What a difference a car change sometimes makes. Only Latvala change from 2016 to 2017 is something similar in recent years.
I was hoping for more, but looked like they used whole rally just to find a setup.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
Or another driver who switched over to Toyota ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by mknight
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Marmaris Rally Turkey podium
2018: Tänak-Latvala-Paddon
2019: Ogier-Lappi-Mikkelsen
2020: Evans-Neuville-Loeb
9 drivers in 3 years...
"It's been a tough weekend. We were there or there abouts most of the weekend, and we thought that uesterday afternoon was game over with a chance for victory. We really tried to drive well and stay in the middle of the road.
"I'm well aware that there is a bit of luck that needs to go your way and I never like to inherit positions from others in that way. This is the nature of Rally Turkey especially, and we knew this coming into the weekend.
"Still very happy - it's not the sweetest victory when you know that you've perhaps been a bit more conservative, but that's the aim of the game."
Rubén Pérez
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#WRC Mundial de marcas tras #RallyTurkey:
Toyota Gazoo Racing WRT 174
Hyundai Shell Mobis WRT 165
M-Sport Ford WRT 101
Well for Latvala I wouldn't say it's clear that 2016 Polo was much worse vs competition than 2017 Toyota. Looked to be as much about changing the enviroment and teammates.Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
Sorry for Tänak and Ogier falling to technical problems. If Evans secures at least 3rd-4th place finishes from next rallies, he would be champ. Has anyone ever been champion after winning only 2 rallies in season and 3 rallies over whole career?
With one win was Burns if i remember correct,but he had more overall wins.Quote:
Originally Posted by Indreq
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Worth remembering...
IF @ypresrally
is the final round of WRC 2020 and it goes down to the wire to decide who becomes champion - EVA, OGI, TÄN and ROV have never contested the event.
@thierryneuville
has on eight occasions.
In 1986 Kankkunen won Sweden, Acropolis and New Zealand. Before that he had only won twice in Africa.Quote:
Originally Posted by Indreq
When counting wins, it's better to use percentages because seasons have different number of rallies (and number of rallies you can count to your result). Two rallies out of seven is is 28%. In a 14-round season that would mean four wins.
Additionally, Ogier won the title in 2017 with only two wins.
In Sardegna will be very bad to be first on the road, in Ypres very good to be first on the road.
Besides wins you have to be consistent in championship to win it and that’s what Evans has done so far.
None zero point rallies for him whilst Neuville has two, Tänak also basically two and Ogier one.
Like Antti said, best example from recent years is 2017 with Ogier with just 2 wins but very consistent points scoring.
Ott had 6 wins last year if I remember right but besides wins he was very consistent too, well actually only the car let him down and one puncture at Corsica
I think and hope that the two last rallies will be epic! Evans just can't cruise around and win the championship. Ogier, Tänak, Neuville, Rovanpera will be all pushing him. And if those 4 stay ahead of him in Sardgena + Hyundai's third driver, then it is all open in the last rally!
the epic would be Evans to collect 0 or little points to Sardegna,and go to the last rally 4 drivers with little points difference.
I hope its a dry Sardegna. I was there in 2018 when it rained.Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
I have every respect towards Evans, he is doing great work. Only sour spot is that Tänak and Ogier suffered mechanicals. If they had suffered punctures, then i would say this is at least partly their own fault. In fair world they should still have 3-way battle going. In short season like this, mechanicals sway the results too much, not much of a season to make up the points lost.
What does Evans need to mathematically seal it in Sardegna? Win the rally + how many points in PS?
Is it sealed in stone that this year's championship will only have two more rounds?! Lately there have been some discussions of the Monza addition.
Motorsport is always a combination of human and machine. Both must perform.Quote:
Originally Posted by Indreq
If Evans gets maximum 30 points in Sardinia, then only Ogier has a chance. Others would not have even theoretical chance, even if Evans would get nothing in Belgium. And when Evans gets maximum points, Ogier would need to get at least 18 points to remain in theoretical title fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by atsiotras79
In a simple way. If Ogier, Tänak, Rovanperä or Neuville would get maximum points from the next two rallies:
Ogier gets 60 points, Evans needs to collect 43 points to win by 1 point.
Tänak or Rovanperä gets 60 points, Evans needs to collect 34 points to win by 1 point.
Neuville gets 60 points, Evans needs to collect 29 points to win by 1 point.
Was thinking the same.Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
Not that I wish something bad for Evans, it would be just epic in Ypres then.
But I believe only mechanical gremlins would ruin his championship.
Neuville (and Breen) at Ypres must give Hyundai some advantage for the Manu title given their experience there.
Given the amount of sheer bad luck Evans has had in the past he surely doesnt deserve any now.Quote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
We see a trend developing....If you drive for Toyota Gazoo Racing, you have a shot to become Champion. The car is fabulous. The team is on kill. Hungary has been horrid on this team. Fowler goes to work, and just like that, winners. Okay, I get that luck had everything to do with it, but we all knew that Hungary would be like this. I thoroughly enjoyed this rally. Hated it for Ogier, but he isn't done. We all understand that.
...Hungary?Quote:
Originally Posted by Revman
At it again today, final version of the many names Lappi goes by haha!
https://twitter.com/TorAndreBorrese/...198622209?s=20
Tommi Mäkinen has apologized to his driver Sébastien Ogier after an engine failure ended his Rally Turkey:
https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/makin...ngine-failure/
Well.... I have to give it to Evans, after years of being dragged down by his car (no offense to M-Sport, I know they aren't as well funded as the others), I'm glad to see Evans doing so well, and I honestly hope it will be a fair fight to the end (although I have to admit if he gets through Sardegna with no points it will be a hell of a champ. Again not wishing Evans bad luck or anything.)
He will have the dubious honour though, of sweeping the road for the others, so that will be tough unless it rains (like it did back in 2012). As for the rally, what a rally, what a weekend we had! It was fantastic and it made me really sad that we now have to wait for another 3 weeks until the next one...
Shame about M-Sport, no testing, no chance....don't see how their situation will be better next year with no official support from Ford...and also shame about the technical problem Ogier had, and I'm guessing if it weren't for it he'd still be behind (but by one point maybe?) but as we seen time and time again this weekend (and in this sport as a whole) it's not over until it's over and I'm sure Ogier will be fighting 'till the end. By the way, does anyone know when and where will that be? because I was hearing rumors about Monza(?!!) Rally replacing Belgium for the final spot? Also, what about Croatia, any news regarding that joining our championship this year? Hopefully we'll have more answers than questions the coming weeks...
One last thing as this turned out to be a very long post, 9 points advantage for Toyota...I hope Hyundai will do better next time because they are running out of time to claim that title back...really would like to see both championships come down to the wire. Have to admit, despite it's downsides, this corona situation has made this year's championship pretty fascinating... the fact that the drivers don't have a lot of rounds makes it far more interesting....just wish for the rallies to be longer...although in this case I honestly don't know how many cars would still be at the end of the last stage.
FIA's post-event press conference: https://www.fia.com/news/wrc-e-evans...t-we-came-here
I hope Evans isn’t too cautious in Sardinia, he really does have a good chance if he stays reliable. It helps that the guys who are further away in the championship, will have the best chance to win in Sardinia, which should help him stay first on the road for Ypres.
I think it was a good point by Elfyn that he had a lucky strike this weekend but he's had his share of bad luck in the past. It's like a compensation from Corsica 2019.
He's gonna do some rain dances...Quote:
Originally Posted by doubled1978
Sardegna hasn't been a happy event for him in the past years, going off early in 2017 and 2018
Elfyn shouldn’t worry about these situations, it’s the right thing to say but rallying history is littered with guys who won events due to others misfortune. It’s the game, sometimes goes for you, sometimes against.Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL