I think he stays with Toyota but I'm not sure.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zeakiwi
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I think he stays with Toyota but I'm not sure.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zeakiwi
Not convinced about that. He was often slower than Kopecky here whilst driving a WRCar...Quote:
Originally Posted by Simmi
Not saying he'd win the championship but it's more suited to his level and would allow him to actually compete for wins. He'd also be a good benchmark for R5 drivers. Maybe he knows he'd get schooled I'm not sure. But when you're in his position and you're not enjoying it then there is zero reason to continue.Quote:
Originally Posted by RS
Leg 3 times, Lappi!!
http://rally-base.com/2016/rally-ita...na-2016/?leg=3
Are you in Capito mode? Seriously?Quote:
Originally Posted by RS
Would you say that if it was Tidemand? ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Rallyper
I have to admit I'm pretty conflicted about the WRC at the moment.
If you ignore some of the nonsense being spouted by his team boss, I completely understand Ogier's frustrations and, like many on here, I think it's completely unfair being asked to sweep for two days. I'd like to see that regulation changed next year.
But.... damn, we've had five different rally winners in a row! I think that's the first time that's happened since 2001.
You can't ignore how good that is for the sport. The ability to tune in and not actually know who is going to win the event has been a distant memory for rally fans. I'm also enjoying following the events a lot more, but at the same time in the back of my mind I am aware that there's this artificial element to it.
So the big question is what is the bigger evil? Is it more important to have purity of competition than a more exciting show? Like I say I'm conflicted.
I guess for hardcore rally fans it's a case of how much do you allow yourself to enjoy this current format...
I would rather see a level playing field and different winners on merit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Simmi
I saw some comments from Tiff Needell complaining that handicapping the best driver, and allowing others to win is a false excitement. Predictably, quite a few rally fans were outraged by his suggestion.
I agree with him; I don't have a problem with it in national/ club 'entertainment' series, I;e the BTCC. But in a serious World Championship, it has no place; Ballast, DRS, running first may all add 'excitement' but in my opinion it devalues the sport.
I think he will go out of rallysport...Quote:
Originally Posted by USER47
Before. Decision was made during previous year...Quote:
Originally Posted by Simmi
He will never go there. He was trying IRC without big success. He likes only WRC series, anything "lower" is under his dignity...Quote:
Originally Posted by Simmi
I was also thinking about it, when I saw it. How they congratulate to Abbring also to points for being in top ten, which everybody average following the event must know, that it is nonsense...Quote:
Originally Posted by Simmi
But interesting-even if Ogier is not sweeping the stages (2nd run and 3rd day, he is not winning stages. Except PS...).Quote:
Originally Posted by Simmi
No point as there is no position to fight, only PS pointsQuote:
Originally Posted by Ucci
What a guy is that Camilli. In his only sixth event in WRC car ( "the crappy Fiesta") he's scoring top 3 times. And he has done only 8 events with R5 car in his career in 2015. Hope he can keep this steep line of progression.
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For sure we've seen Ogier adapt to his situation in the last few rounds. That 'win every stage at all costs' mentality isn't there.
Ogier can go about getting 2nds and 3rds for the rest of the year and he can still rap up this championship by the time we get to China.
I am afraid he is not looking for challenges in rallysport...Quote:
Originally Posted by mousti
In rallysport, it was in the past ALWAYS, that fastest drivers were going first (so they had disadvantage with sweeping positions). Only in modern WRC era they have started with reversing the order...Quote:
Originally Posted by AndyRAC
New addition to notional times on SS 12 - today before midday, they have changed also time of Kruuda... Question is which times they will change tomorrow...
A bit sad to see Prokop go, he seemed to enjoy himself all the time. After Portugal you could tell by his words that maybe he is a bit angry that the FIA wont allow all drivers to compete in a 2017 gen WRC, so maybe that's why he is leaving.
I dont think to that it is the main reason. He found that he has no chance to move up. He is little bit tired with WRC, he needs to have a new toy, to do something different. Thats why he is trying circuits or Dakar...Quote:
Originally Posted by Francis44
Lavadinho photos
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Jari-Matti Latvala @JariMattiWRC
Here are José & Orlando! They are our and @thierryneuville head mechanics! And it's a portuguese one-two! #Congrats
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Colin Clark @voiceofrally
Think it's fair to say Pappa Neuville is the happiest man in Sardinia @thierryneuville @HyundaiWRC
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nice celebration after some tough times
https://twitter.com/thierryneuville
When did only last day count? So answer is - never.Quote:
Originally Posted by RS
I don't like super dusty rallies but that made for some nice dramatic shots!Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
Agree 100%.....some members have short memory.....Quote:
Originally Posted by PLuto
Champion must be mentally strong as well. And Ogier has done it quite well. We must admit that this rule is for everybody. Everybody who leads might have this disadvantage or advantage in tramac rallies. Everbody know that if they lead they must sweep roads. Rules are same for everybody and if you cannot handle it you need to visit psyhologist;) Complaining is just a part of the game ;)
And it seems that we have quite equal championship right now. Even without sweeping, we still had very similar times and if we compare Italy 2015 and 2016, podium was nearly in 5 minutes year ago! That means, Tänak would have been fighting with his melting tyres for podium position and would have finished fourth ;) Nad top 10 finish was possible with over 20 minutes timeloss!
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Originally Posted by Rallyper
Or it seems possible that the cars are so good and do virtually everything you need that almost anybody with minimal motivation --or better said, a little more motivation than the average young guy hanging around a shopping center can make surprising results..
When he has no chance to gain positions he is logically preserving tyres to take the PS. The performance on other stages doesn't have much to do with his speed IMO.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ucci
Actually it did and still does. ERC uses different format where instead of superally they give bonus points for results in each leg. There he would score one point overall but would not be classified in finish like here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rallyper
its so easy,that they had to diasadvantage the faster guy for 2 days(and 80% of stage kms),to have a different winner.Quote:
Originally Posted by janvanvurpa
No its not so easy jan.
Unfortunately, FIA adapted this stupid rally2 format back to ERC again and wanted to destroy bonus points also, but thanks god it didnt happened...Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
Only 20 crews passed all stages in Sardegna and finished the rally without superally...
Great win for Neuville, shame Hyundai keep choosing the wrong drivers for manufacturers points, but this win was out of nowhere so can't really blame them.
Personally hate the two team role, just allow teams to run 3 cars with the top two scoring manufacturers pts.
Camilli also impressed again, he's got no experience whatsoever really compared to other drivers but seems to be a quick learner and must have natural talent. If he continues to improve I guess MW deserves a lot of praise for putting his belief and money into him. Clearly a long term move
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Just heard Hyundai have failed post event , don't know what for yet !!!!!
Had a txt from a guy over there
It's not confirmed yet and no idea what the problem is and what car number it is, the car is being held at post event at the minute ,hopefully the problem is just interpretation of homolagation and can be cleared up.
Or maybe the results show how much the psychic pressure means. Actually I don't believe that it's some kind of accident that we have three consecutive winners who all had not been nominated on points or don't do the whole season so don't care about points (Meeke).Quote:
Originally Posted by er88
Agree. I would personally go even further with the formula which worked well in IRC on its peak. Whatever driver with a car of the particular brand takes manufacturer points if he's good enough. In that time it helped a lot of privateers or juniors to get good machines and support from the manufacturers. It's the WRC what benefits from that now as guys like Neuville or Mikkelsen would hardly be where they are now.Quote:
Originally Posted by er88
Agree. Fingers crossed to continue his progress.Quote:
Originally Posted by er88
I hope it's not true...Quote:
Originally Posted by satnav