My god JML is on a flyer!!
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My god JML is on a flyer!!
it is not luck.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
I still donīt understand why they couldnīt do that in Finland as well. Because Finland is the real test on gravel and should be good having done before itīs the real business 2013.Quote:
Originally Posted by Francis44
It must be tough to be way over your limit all the time to match the citroen's pace... that may be a point...Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
Zero car need to be homologated too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Francis44
I think it would make more sense to debut the car on home ground. For Finland im sure they will test the car there, sooner or later.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rallyper
What is it? Another conspiracy theory?Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
Abbring had fuel pump problems.
yes, but thats not luck.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jajá
I think Hirvonen made a statement like " Now I understand why we where slower" or something like that.
Agree on that, but you know how pedantic the Germans are, they wouldnīt like to miss an opprtunity to test in real conditions in Finland before they even test on homeground. MAybe itīs me having wishful thinking, but still...Quote:
Originally Posted by Francis44
just ability.Quote:
Originally Posted by A.F.F.
Fair enough.Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
This is what I feel, its like rallying deja vu.Quote:
Originally Posted by Psycho!
When is the last time we had a real fight for the lead between a Citroen and a Ford ???
Unfortunally my prediction from this afternoon concerning Neuville came true. I think he was trying a little bit too much if you see his times. I think it would make more sence to try and get the experience of the car first and then try to set good times. :(
A month ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
Specialist rally, Ford's one guaranteed win.Quote:
Originally Posted by tommeke_B
Citroen didn't have a specialist driver then? :eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
Yes Mikkos 1st time in DS3 on snow.Quote:
Originally Posted by jonkka
You know what I mean - a gravel rally with no punctures, damage, crashes for either (but usually Ford) :(
I think citroen doesnīt develop the car for just one snow event, they put the money in for the gravel and tarmac events
Portugal 2011 - Ogier was faster by 0,1 sec.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
Too much moaning, actually last season was quite interesting :)
No times for Kosciuszko and Fuchs for SS7 but they are on the splits for SS8 ??
(Okay, times up now....)
WT
I diddnt expect the fords to be as fast as this, shame there were mistakes! We could have been in for a good battle between 4 factory drivers.
Im also dissapointed with Neuville, was looking forward to a good fight with Ostberg, shame he is out of contention aswel :(
Latvala on fire, fastest rally driver on the planet, unfortunately only after he has binned it and lost all chance of a win, as usual!
Most of all, Id love to see Mikko win, and if Loeb does win this event, I hope its because hes faster than his team mate, not because Citroen want to make their wonder boy a 9 times world champion(9......!)
Yes, my bad! Rally Jordan it was :) Thanks Tommeke!Quote:
Originally Posted by tommeke_B
Will the super special stage show again online?
I have previously, under a different topic, said that I am afraid that Ford has, as in previous constructions of the WRC cars, priority traction, instead of hand-ling. It will make the car very good in very slippery conditions. but very difficult to drive, when the grip increases. It is possible I have no right in my conclusions, but it certainly looks like it is.
They can win if it rains or when there is less grip as the snow conditions, but the car is terribly difficult to drive at other conditions, due to lack of hand-ling. If we look back and assess the rally they have won in recent years and how the condition has been during these rallies, I think Hirvonen is right. Now I understand why we had trouble winning.
What do you think of Ramona Karlsson's pace so far in Mexico :confused:
I think a lack of power is the problem. In rallies where they need power, like asphalt or high altitude rallies, they have been struggling all the time. The handling doesn't seems to be the problem, a few Dutch and Belgium rally drivers have said the car is very nice and essay to drive when they drove it for the first time in national rallies.
couldn t be...... rallies that Fords drivers managed/suit them better? food for thought... ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach 2
what happened to ramona? did they even start on ss8?
they lost 30 secs on ss7 so do they have problems? or even an off?
We must keep an eye on the weather as well...Any relatively accurate predictions??
where is bluuford when you need him?
hear on the twitter a ford pulled up on the road section
It's actually not just P.S. the puncture, but most Ford drivers when speed increases. This looks like a syndrome of Ford, more than just drivers who cut too much. If you feel uncertainty when you go into the turns (due to lack of hand-ling), this would necessarily result in punctures.Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
I've suspected this for years, but I'm more certain that this is the case now than I've ever been.
I, am a great defender of the "Nose end first" style, this style is very difficult to perform with a car that has bad "hand-ling".
Nice comments once again about how JML binned it... Maybe you could show how to avoid a massive rock on a really fast downhill section when on fifth-sixth gear? Just very bad luck - or idiot spectators putting it there.
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Originally Posted by Tom206wrc
Miriam is feeling very unwell, almost fainted during the morning loop. Apparently the hydration failed during and after the long recce and now the body is all fked up. Really shows how important proper nutrition and hydration is.Quote:
Originally Posted by BleAivano
If she gets better I believe their speed will increase. Ramona has a lot of potential, she's definately not a tourist - atleast in Swedish events. I think she might get some good PWRC results, she just needs more experience from WRC.
Kinda lazy first day but not bad at all.
As expected, the Citroens topped the overall from the very beginning. In his first non-specialist rally Hirvonen shows strong times and now its easy to see the handicap he had with the cars last years. I dont want to say he is equal to Loeb, but, if they'd had opposite teams from the beginning he would have probably won 2-3 titles.
About the Fords, their rude driving styles immidiately took their toll on this tricky event, fortunately they lost less than two minutes each (and a few tyres) and are back on the pedestal. But nothing more because Citroens certainly wont succumb to pressure, nor their cars break from nothing, nevermind if there are 300 or 30000 kilometers left.
Tanak and Neuville swapped their positions again. I mean, one is cruising while the other one pushing (with good times) and crashing. They both have incredible raw talent but still need a lot of experience to be "in the mix". The other youngster Abbring is also amazing and seems very relaxed.
Mads is doing pretty good job again. Novikov, Atkinson and Attiyah are playing it safe but may suddenly explode with top times. Block is here for 4th time and I think he is already at the top of his rally potential, but I dont have anything against him. Same for Araujo.
Sorry - :( Dont mean to offend/kick a driver when theyre down, it just nearly always seems to be the case with Latvala. He is always fast, then makes a mistake and puts himself out of contention, then wins more stages at the end of the event with the overall time way behind the leader. Only when he finishes the event without any offs/punctures etc does he win. And win with style(Sweden)Quote:
Originally Posted by Juha_Koo
will the special stage be streamed live?
Hey, no need to apologize. :) It's totally fine to analyze the rally. My point was that I really don't understand how it can be JML's mistake that there was a huge rock on the line (which wasn't there during recce). It's enviromental, not JML-mental. His reputation as a driver leans heavily to the history when he was all over the place. I feel that many times JML is critisized for no reason. There are things to which driver can't do nothing about.Quote:
Originally Posted by tfp
It is often difficult to consolidate this early in the season, but I think those who criticized Hirvonen recent years, should consider the reason for their opinions.Quote:
Originally Posted by Juha_Koo
With the background of this year's preliminary results, they should be unlikely surprised.