What would be the difference between it being on ITV4 or Dave?Quote:
Originally Posted by Langdale Forest
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What would be the difference between it being on ITV4 or Dave?Quote:
Originally Posted by Langdale Forest
You cannot get Dave on Freesat and the Dave coverage was rubbish anyway.
So you want it on Free TV. Got it.
How about internet coverage? As LIVE this weekend in France? You need Sport+ from France... but we've found a way to watch it online Free =)
wrc´s youtube channel has come back to live today. they´ve uploaded the same stuff thats online on wrc.com but still better then nothing. maybe we can hope to request onboards in the future again:
The Official WRC Channel - YouTube
ITV4 coverage before Dave took over was even worse though. The X-Fighters coverage is quite good, a bit shouty and lacking in substance but I think a lot of that is down to the ethos of the sport itself.Quote:
Originally Posted by Langdale Forest
Sounds like Monday is the day...
Long-term WRC promotion to be discussed in Paris FIA meeting - WRC news - AUTOSPORT.com
The long-term promotion of the World Rally Championship will be discussed at a meeting between the FIA and rally organisers in Paris next week.
A document seen by AUTOSPORT includes the agenda for the meeting, at which crucial investment plans for the future of the series are expected to be revealed.
Red Bull Media House and Sportsman Media were revealed as the WRC's new promoters in September and have attended the last three rounds of the series.
Both have remained silent on their plans for the future of the sport during that time, leading to increasing levels of disquiet among the stakeholders in the championship.
However, Monday's meeting comes at the end of a positive week amid talk of rapid and prolonged investment from the promoters. It is expected to set the tone for announcements from the promoter next month.
"They've [the new promoter] had time to have a look around and get among us," a senior source told AUTOSPORT.
"But now it's time for them to give us some news. And I'm sure that's what Monday is going to be all about.
"We've all done our homework on the companies involved and we all know they're not in the WRC to turn a profit in year one - maybe not event the couple of years following - they're in the WRC to invest in it for the long term."
The 2012 WRC season has been among the most difficult in its history. This follows its former promoter North One Sport going into liquidation last December and has included events such as the Acropolis and Rally Australia stuggling to remain financially successful.
AUTOSPORT's source added: "The final few years of the ailing North One Sport era saw a trend of further and further reducing investment and increased cost-saving, putting more and more pressure on the organisers and teams to carry the financial burden.
"We are now getting a glimpse of the light at the end of the tunnel."
"This is a 10-year deal we're talking about and that's going to come with significant investment.
"For the event organisers and the other stakeholders, this is what they have been waiting for - investment in the championship; a promoter coming along to take some of the strain financially.
"Undoubtedly, Monday is a great chance for a line to be drawn in the sand - it's a meeting of the highest importance.
"Admittedly, the meeting won't have a huge regulatory impact, but the chance to boost confidence and set the tone for some of the more, should we say, cash-strapped, organisers is vital."
New proposed sporting regulations, guidelines for event organisers, the new FIA Rally Organisation - specifically relating to Jarmo Mahonen's role as rally director - and the timing and tracking deal are also set to be discussed.
So... Any News??
A week has passed since the meeting and nobody has heard anything? :confused: Hope the news (if there is any to report) will be good (especially if it is being kept quiet..)
I heard someone somewhere saying Lack of news is good news... But I think it was in war times.
The only think I've read recently about this is Eurosport claiming Red Bull Media House's offer to WRC promotion was better than theirs. The only question is - better how?
Just look at the coverage of the RedBull Stratos with Felix Baumgartner....they know how to promote an event. Have a look at their website, or RedBullTV, RedBulletin magazine, etc RedBull are in a different league to Eurosport.
Yeah Red Bull is so much more than a brand now. The promotion of X-Fighters, Air Race and their Formula 1 team is amazing. I think that, as motorsport fans, we all have to be very grateful for what Red Bull have done for the sport. There doesn't seem to be a facet of the sport that isn't touched by their sponsorship. F1, MotoGP, Rallying, Pikes Peak, motocross...hell you could even claim that Relentless and Monster are part of the Red Bull legacy.
If anyone can turn around the popularity of rallying then it'll be Red Bull, I just hope that they can do it by promotion of the sport as it is, rather than a complete restructuring.
Agree! Eurosport is just a beginner compared to RedBull marketing boys...Quote:
Originally Posted by AndyRAC
Be fair.... Red Bull has an huge economic power compared to Eurosport, you can't really compare them both, not fair.
It's a fair comparison in this context.Quote:
Originally Posted by Francis44
One is a marketing company.
One is a TV broadcaster that pretends to market.
But why does it have such power? Red Bull isn't a particularly nice drink and there are alternatives...it's powerful because they are so good at promotion.Quote:
Originally Posted by Francis44
Marketing is everything. Heineken (Dutch beer) is perhaps the worst beer you can find, but with good marketing you sell everything, it's one of the most sold beers in the world. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by MrJan
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Originally Posted by MrJan
Exactly! Look at some of the events they're behind; RedBull Air Race, RedBull Crashed Ice, X Fighters. None of which you'd call 'mainstream' but they have become 'Events'. How many of the WRC rounds would you class as an 'Event'?
I really hope they will revamp it completely, they do make a lot of good things like this
Red Bull Signature Series - Loretta Lynn's 2012 FULL TV EPISODE - YouTube
Always thought the WRC had the coolest sports intro before :)
Exactly the kind of thing the sports needs to capture the next generation of WRC fans although I doubt something like this would get too much support from the "old guard" here on the forum. There is kind of a paradox around here in that most agree something drastic needs to change in the WRC regarding capturing footage but most here seems to revel in the "good old days" without much regards as to what it will take to make the WRC appealing to Generation Z. To me Red Bull is a good fit as they are the kings at promoting extreme sports which are typically individual-based, not team oriented, and will hopefully be able to capture the extreme nature of an individual WRC car on a stage by itself. This I feel is the biggest struggle in gaining an audience here in the U.S. as even my gearhead friends who appreciate the technical aspects of the WRC, are turned off by the single vehicle in a stage at a time aspect of the sport. With most people having larger format TVs, I feel one option would be to provide multiple views on the screen at once. I prefer seeing the stage from the "fender cam" but also appreciate seeing the footwork as the brake/clutch/throttle are manipulated in relation to the corner. Combine these shots with external views of the car sliding through the corners and you'd have something that anyone who has any appreciation whatsoever for automotive competition couldn't help but enjoy! Bottom line is that the footage surely can't get any worse than it was the past few years and I am looking forward to what is being planned!Quote:
Originally Posted by SubaruNorway
Apparently a tender to provide the television production for WRC in 2013 went out some time last week.
Companies like 2012 supplier EBU expected to put in a pitch.
Disagree! I like Heineken ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by tommeke_B
I was always hoping for a eurosport promoter, but fter you point that out, I am not particurlarly interested in stunt bikes or diving but RB make a really good show and its always entertaining, so imagine what they can do with WRC...Quote:
Originally Posted by AndyRAC
The big question is whether they will broadcast on freeview or not and what about coverage. Europsort offers best coverage with no extra cost.
Only in a few countries is Eurosport free.Quote:
Originally Posted by wrc1600
Here in UK it's pay tv.
Being on Eurosport also stops the ability to do deals with individual country broadcasters.
Eurosport themselves admitted the Red Bull offer was simply better. The strong point of Eurosport is their wide audience, and apprently they think Red Bull's offer will be better than that.
You can get it on satellite for free and that is the point, natioal broadcasters weren't interested in WRC and I don't think Redbull presence will change that. To get audience it needs to be free and in as many countries as possible.Quote:
Originally Posted by rallyfiend
Eurosport would have suited me well because the housing association (google translated) where I live has Eurosport. This year I subscribed for the MTV3 web stream for 25 € so that’s not so bad. Only thing is that quality is not so good when connecting the laptop to a TV.
Malaysia could hardly see Rally nowadays... missing those days seeing the cars running in the muddy course :(
Diddnt really know where to post this, but I thought a lot of people would like to see this -
Time for Tea? 1980s Rallycross - PistonHeads
Enjoy :D
I read in the yesterday newspaper (Helsingin Sanomat) about the young golf player (23) Rory McIlroy. He’s made a sponsorship with Nike from the beginning of next year, which estimated value is 192 million euros over a ten year period, 19,2 millions per year. I think that any team or driver would be more than happy with such kind of sponsorship.
In the article was also written that thanks to Tiger Woods the amount of money in pro golf has increased and attracted new spectators outside golf. By the world wide TV- visibility golf also attracted new sponsors outside golf.
Imo in golf there’s not so huge crowds following it onsite (at least compared to F1). The spectators follow their favourite player or the top players. Also the final outcome is decided (hopefully) at the last hole. So, the spectators have to follow the competition to last hole as in rallying to the last stage.
I can see some similarities in golf and rallying, both are very dependent on TV-visibility. What rallying needs is character like Tiger Woods to attract more spectators and sponsors or in other way make rallying more attractive to Average Joe and thereby also for sponsors. What that would be I don’t know. What MTV3 is doing here in Finland is that they put ads for NORF on their free to air channel during prime time although the WRC TV broadcasts are on their pay channel.
I hope that The Sportsman Media Group and Red Bull Media House can solve this problem.
Not true. Live stages from Barum Rally 2012 were also on Czech national tv.Quote:
Originally Posted by rallyfiend
IRC has been on several channels in Belgium too, during the years... ;)
Care to elaborate? Our Barum rally has been part of IRC since 2007. From all those years there were reports on Czech TV using materials of Czech company mediasport. Mediasport also provides onboard videos free of charge on the internet from all Czech (and some other) events including Barum rally. The only difference was they were allowed to bring Barum ones online some ten days after the rally or so. As Ron pointed in 2012 Czech TV also broadcasted live stages of Eurosport. During all the years Mediasport-prepared rally magazines broadcasted on Czech TV used materials made by Eurosport as well (from all IRC events except Barum where - as I said - they had their own).Quote:
Originally Posted by rallyfiend
Any word/rumours about broadcasters being signed up to carry coverage? or any news at all from RBMH/Sportsman group or the new timing people about what they are planning to do? or even when they plan to announce what they are doing? I imagine they are probably are working quite hard towards doing a very good job, but it would be nice to hear how things are progressing :) Plus I have a terrestrial broadcaster to lobby here ;)
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Originally Posted by bf1_IRL
Rte/tg4????
I prefer "big bang" theory :) . I'm sure that when a new season starts we will see RBMH doing their magic.They have a contract of minimum six years so no need to rush things. RBMH/SMG were selected begause of their innovative digital media concept so expecting fresh ideas there. Ok, realistically they might not be able to get "everything" ready for Monte but in 1-2 years after collecting some experience and developing new products we should have the WRC media coverage in a totally different level.Quote:
Originally Posted by bf1_IRL
more work.. less talk..
Old Estonian version in some kind of dialect: enem tögöss.. vähäm mögöss
@gravelman Yep, it is worth a try :) I talked to Michael O'Carroll back in 2001 and eventually we got WRC on RTÉ2 albeit late at night but it was something!
@bluuford Yes I agree, but I would like some info so to then be able to approach the local broadcasters here with any relevant info they may need :)
I think, that Red Bull main platform will be Red Bull TV. It's available for Smart TVs, Android, Iphone and of course for free on the internet.
A few worlds about Red Bull and WRC