Is it possible to do some really productive work on it?Quote:
Originally Posted by race aficionado
If not I do not see it's usefulness, especially given it's price.
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Is it possible to do some really productive work on it?Quote:
Originally Posted by race aficionado
If not I do not see it's usefulness, especially given it's price.
I don't know ioan.Quote:
Originally Posted by ioan
I will eventually buy one (next generation probably) because right now the tax man has taken all of my money.
Let's see who gets a hands-on try at it and give us a report.
:s mokin:
we will see if it runs iwork 11
Well, I bought one o the android2.2 tablets in HK for US$220. It is light and I have been sending emails and accessing the Ski Japan forum as well as here. But if I were to spend more, I would go for the Acer Ferrari netbook which I can buy for under $700 at Costco. No way would I pay nearly $900 for Apple's Ipad. My Iped has a flash player. With an Ipad you either pay for apps or hijack them.Quote:
Originally Posted by race aficionado
Woooooooooooo. :s nore:Quote:
Originally Posted by race aficionado
Let's look at The Telegraph's initial review:
Finally. The first version should have had at least a front-facing for conferencing.Quote:
[The new iPad] has two cameras built into the rear and front of the device, both of which take photos and shoot video
Oh how I laughed... five years ago when I saw this on a Sony Ericsson.Quote:
The new device comes preloaded with a new app called Photo Booth, which allows people to take distorted photos of themselves and share them with friends
Oh, so forget conferencing then unless your colleagues are on suitable hardware.Quote:
And users will also be able to use the iPad 2 to video call friends who have either an iPad 2, an iPhone 4 or the latest iPod Touch, using Apple Facetime
Fair enough.Quote:
The iPad 2 is one third thinner than the first device and is slightly lighter
Big wow :\Quote:
It will also be available in white for the first time, as well as the standard black.
At last, something worth shouting about. But given that the vast majority of users simply surf the web or play simple games, is that really such a big deal?Quote:
Jobs said that Apple has installed a new chip inside the iPad 2 which makes the device run up to two times faster than the original iPad. The new chip also allows graphics to load up to nine times faster than the first device.
That's not a feature, it's an optional kickstand and an admission that tablets are not ideal for watching media for more than a few minutes at a time.Quote:
The technology company has also developed a new “smart” case for the iPad 2 which, as well as protecting the large screen, doubles as a stand so people can watch movies with greater ease. The new case hooks on to the hinges of the iPad 2 and folds up into a stand. Users will have to purchase the case separately.
So still no SD card, still no USB, still no HDMI**, still not even widescreen let alone HD, still shackled to iTunes, and still no 7" version.
(**edit: you can buy a $39 adaptor for HDMI output, which is a messy solution)
If you want a full-fat tablet, get a Xoom. If you just want a bit of browsing on the move, do what Valve did and get a Chinese no-name for a third of the price.
Nice summary :D
I still see it as a very niche product. If you want a multifunction device that's nice and small, get a smart phone. If you want to do more get a laptop.
I can see the point in it in some circumstances if you want a big screen but you don't want the weight of a laptop, but with all Apple devices, the lack of Flash is still a big problem. I know from browsing in 64-bit Linux which flash has a problem with, the sheer number of websites which assume you have flash installed and just won't work without it.
So, what's wrong with the Acer Ferrari net book? At US$700 from Costco?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark
Nothing? Everything? I have no idea...
Anyway the real achievement here is that again Apple have released a product and it's headline news around the world, even gets a mention on Radio 1 this morning in the news. Yet another manufacturer comes up with the same - or arguably better, product, and they might be lucky to get a passing reference on Click or The Gadget Show at most.
Apple has a superb sales team. Dell is the lousiest I have ever encountered. Dell used to have a small counter at Chadstone Mall. I was considering upgrading at the time, sowalked up to the Dell stall. The guy was fiddling with the PC and ignored me. When I interupted him toask about the PC he looked dismissive. So I wanted a demonstration and asked if he had internet, and he rudely pointed behind and said "internet over there". Apple upstairs was exact opposite, showing me how to open the browser and encouraged me to surf the net. With that friendly attitude,Apple cannot fail. I nearly upgraded to Apple myself, but the price beat me.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereport..._of_steve.htmlQuote:
It's in Apple's DNA that technology alone is not enough," [Jobs] told the crowd. "It's technology married with the liberal arts, married with the humanities that yields the results that make our hearts sing.
Sheen and Gaddafi have competition for the most ridiculous quote of the year. :p
:rotflmao: :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave B
Worst part yet is that all of them have followers!
Like any computing device, it depends on what industry or sector your productive work applies to. My girl works with children who have special needs/learning disabilities. She said they're piloting iPads in the school system where she works. Especially in kids with autism, apparently these types of devices (not just iPads) help them relate to their surroundings better. iPads have also been piloted or deployed in about 80% of Fortune 500 companies thus far. From what I've read, the iPad has seen the highest (non-consumer) adoption rates in education, financial services/sales and health care.Quote:
Originally Posted by ioan
If you're doing heavy CAD/CAM, spreadsheet, graphics or dedicated stock, futures or options trading, I'd say an iPad (or any other relatively small screen device) would be too limiting. Although there are productivity apps made by AutoCAD, the CBOE, most banks and financial institutions, as well as graphics companies, the iPad isn't yet powerful or versatile enough to be a desktop or laptop replacement. Tablets function more as mobile, complimentary devices to full systems right now.
I don't need or want an iPad for myself right now. The new MacBook Pro better fits my needs, so that's what I'm looking forward to getting soon. But I'd planned to buy my girl an iPad last year - now I'm glad I waited. The iPad2, with the additional features, should fit the bill very well for her. And if I get as many "good boyfriend points" as I hope to, hopefully we'll be stopping by the Victoria's Secret shop... so that I'll also have a "present" to unwrap after she unwraps her
new iPad. :)
But the iPad started life as (primarily) a consumer device, that is rapidly finding a place in the business world. With the release of Gingerbread/3.0(?), the Android makers now have an OS that is suited for the larger form factor of a tablet. But (IMO) too many of them rushed to get products to market that were not ready for prime time. And that's hurt them on the business adoption side. No doubt, Android and the new RIM device will come on strong - maybe HP too. But for the next couple of years, the tablet market should belong to Apple.
Well now we have the iPad too we can look forward to the iPhone 5! Which I don't intend on buying but it should bring a new OS with it.
...but I haven't noticed any changes from last weeks software update yet.
That's 4.2? I think 4.3 is out at the end of this week. Agreed, the chages are minor at best!
I think tablets are going to eventually die the same death that netbooks have died from. Its not that they're not well designed, its just that the form factor is fundamentally wrong. They don't do anything better than a phone and a pc/laptop.
we used to laugh at people who used to bring tablets in for repair 5-6 years ago because other than for someone who is always out and about and doesn't have somewhere to sit, the tablet is not as functional as a laptop, nor is it as portable as a touchscreen phone.
It's hard to think of a usecase where I tablet is going to be more useful than a laptop on a long term basis. Apart from just the 'sitting on the sofa' one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Daniel
If you're travelling a lot then you'd really want a smartphone instead, if you're on the train then there is always a surface to put a small laptop on, as there are in most other cases where you'd want something bigger than a smartphone.
I'd be interested to hear from people who actually have tablets as to where and when they use them.
Turns out Microsoft paid Nokia $1 billion in order to take it's OS
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/03...icrosoft_deal/
Nokia will pay Microsoft back each time it sells a phone with their OS in it, but it looks like a good deal for Nokia!
Those are rumours Mark, but I wouldn't be surprised if it were true
I'm surprised really both were in a big hole with their respective products, but probably Nokia was in the biggest one of all. After all MS could afford for it's phone product to not really take off, but Nokia, well that's all they do!
Hey Mark! :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark
You and I are on a different iPhone purchase cycle.
I didn't purchase the model you have waiting for the next one.
I have the previous model and it's been good for me.
The only bummer right now is the battery has gotten very week.- I have to charge the phone every day. Someone told me it was because I probably got it wet - and also your model came with a longer lasting battery.
I'm looking forward to this summer's iPhone launch and in the meantime my iPhone is dong its job.
:s mokin:
If and when the battery on my HTC starts to degrade, I can buy another for ~£20 (less if I want a Chinese knock-off) and fit it myself in less than a minute. I understand you can't do that on an iPhone :crazy:Quote:
Originally Posted by race aficionado
I suppose it depends on how old the phone is and your own tendancy to keep to up with new technology. My iphone is over 2 years old now but is still going strong. I did think I'd broken it last year but it just turned out that I'd broken all my chargers at the same time. :s If the battery were to go weak (and under the assumption that I could replace the battery) I would still be more likely to just get a new phone rather than start replacing bits even if it doesn't cost that much. :)
I see the alarm clock problem has reared its ugly head yet again:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technolog...es-agains.html
Which is why I have a cheap wristwatch which I use as my alarm, goes off every morning without fail and isn't dependent on the whims of my phone deciding not to work or not charge or whatever. And that's something I apply to all phones I've had, not just my iPhone.
That basic issues like this and the antenna issues is allowed to happen by Apple is hilarious.....Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave B
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Originally Posted by Dave B
My Samsung Omnia 7 also has this functionality, it's magical :p
I really do enjoy the endless smuggery from Dave and Daniel when it comes to Apple :rolleyes:
So you like technology which can't do basic things? :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by barryfullalove
You seem the sort of person that buys something because loads of people don't like it.....
you mean a Linux person? :eek: :eek: :p
No, Linux is actually useful for servers. Every Mac device could disappear today and the world would still tick over, could you say the same about Windows or Linux?Quote:
Originally Posted by donKey jote
Not really, I buy something because I like it. I then don't bother taking delight in all the problems that the competitor has had (even though I don't actually use one).Quote:
Originally Posted by Daniel
And what basic things do you think that my iPhone should do that it apparently doesn't? Please don't tell me it's just the alarm clock, because that would be ridiculous.
and for my TomTom, but that's not why I bought it :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Daniel
I got an iPhone because what it does, it does well. Unlike my Nokia.
I am looking to change me phone next year and for the first time, I will go for a smart phone.
My friends have Blackberry's, HTC's, Nokia's etc but from what I have seen, the easiest to use, quickest and most suited to what I need is the iPhone.
I have had an iPod Classic Video since about 2005/6 and the Battery is fine and never had a problem with it. This has convinced me that the build quality is superb as it has stood up better than just about every other small portable electronic device I have had.
I would quite like an iPad but think the phone would be first :)
Next year, as in 2012? Too far off to think about really, the landscape could have changed considerably by then.
I got an iPhone to piss off Daniel. :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Mark
OK . . . I really got it because I wanted to -
and I hope that all phone owners out there, regardless of the brand they are using,
are getting their bang for their buck.
I sure am.
:s mokin:
Well fine then, but what is your issue with Dave and myself? Are we not allowed an opinion? Have you got the hots for us or something? I can assure you that we're both very much taken if that's the case.Quote:
Originally Posted by barryfullalove
Saying that a phone shouldn't have to do basic things like having a working alarm clock or being able to have a reliable signal is like saying that a car is a good car even if it won't move under it's own power sometimes.
I can understand why some people buy iPhones, Mark for instance had a really rubbish Nokia that a lot of people aren't/weren't happy with so he bought something better, but that doesn't mean that people like Dave and myself aren't allowed to highlight the flaws in the phone that Mark bought and vice versa. Comprende?
You're welcome to an opinion and everyone knows your opinion on this subject, yet every time a problem occurs with the iPhone we're treated to a gleeful post and a link from either you or Dave. I haven't had any problems with my phone, in fact the only reason I know of any problems is down to links that you two post on here. I used the alarm clock the other day and it worked okay. I used the calculator today and it calculated accurately. I used the iPod this evening and it was fantastic, yet apparently I've got a terrible phone. Admittedly I don't use any of these features that often, but for me the attraction of a smartphone is internet access, a handful of apps and the fact that I have these features to hand if needed. In truth though I would far rather use something specifically designed for a task, so I've got an alarm clock to wake me up, a calculator to calculate **** and an MP3 player for music (all of which I owned before).
I also understand perfectly that you want to highlight flaws and point out better phones, but what's the need for Dave to post another thing about the alarm clock? We all already know that it's been a flaw. And you can't tell me that writing that **** about the battery was anything other than you being smug.
If you're looking to buy in 2012 I would consider a Windows Phone 7 Nokia. Whilst Symbian has been the downfall of most Nokia phones for a couple of years now, the hardware and build quality are generally very very good. As Mark says a lot of things will have changed by then and I imagine the new iOS will have things from WinPho7 like live tiles and the like. I honestly think that you could buy an Android, Apple, Windows Phone 7 or Blackberry phone and you'll probably get a very good and very functional phone these days, but with the iPhone for instance you will pay a lot more for it. I'll happily pay extra for something which is good, but IMHO the iPhone just doesn't justify it.Quote:
Originally Posted by skc
The build quality of Apple stuff is generally good, but the problem with Apple stuff is that it's not meant to be taken apart and repaired and I just don't like that as it's not very environmentally friendly. I had a Nokia 3230 back in Australia which I dropped and broke the screen, looked in a catalogue of spares we had at work, bought a screen for £10 or so and repaired it myself. The flexi cable on my N95 which ran between the two slider bits went faulty and I took the phone apart and replaced the faulty part with one I bought on eBay for a few pounds. I know most people here probably won't have the inclination to fix their own electrical items but at least you could take a Nokia or a Samsung or whatever to a repair place and have them fix it for you, with an Apple phone you can pretty much only take it to Apple and in most cases they will provide you with an exchange unit because more likely than not they will have to destroy the casing to get inside the phone or iPad or iPhone or whatever. That might seem like a small matter to some people but has anyone looked into the amount of e-waste that we have in the UK and how much of it we send to other third world countries purely because we don't know what to do with it? I for one try as hard as I can to not add to that!
I understand if people don't agree, but it's laughable that someone on here is bleating about my opinion, should I bleat back my opinion of his opinion of my opinion? :p