what is amazing?Quote:
Originally Posted by stefanvv
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what is amazing?Quote:
Originally Posted by stefanvv
That fight with R5 actually.Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
EDIT: let me enjoy myself little bit;)
Have You missed years of GT dominance in Spain for example? GT cars are naturally very fast on particular stages in good weather and them beating S2000/R5 is nothing new. These weren't FIA spec. RGTs.
Yeah I know/and also missed lot of it, but still in Spain the roads are more made for this cars. True, it depends on the roads.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
i didnt saw any fight.I saw some good drivers with 997 (Nantet) that couldnt be faster from a less good driver with a r5 car.Quote:
Originally Posted by stefanvv
of course you can enjoy yourself,but i can t read about ''fights'' that didn t happened.
less good driver? Bonato is a big talent, but it was his R5 debut though, and Cedric Robert wasn't much faster than Nantet before his retirement. But anyways it's for several years now that especially Nantet can get a very high overall result in some big French rallies.
For sure Bonato is a better driver that Nantet. No doubt about that ... Bonato is a "professional" driver (he isn't eligible for amateur trophy f.e.), he was a top young gun, but couldn't find professionnal contracts at further times (and sponsors stopped supporting him the time he needed it).
Last year he was amazing driving the Adam R2. And here he was faster than Cédric Robert.
What is good is RGT is as fast as the top "regional" category Rally car. It is good because these cars are much more entertaining.Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
Again, these cars were not RGT.Quote:
Originally Posted by stefanvv
Yes of course, I don't care much about the names, haven't noticed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
Exactly! Let's enjoy the show! Don't ou guys find the GT cars beautiful?Quote:
Originally Posted by stefanvv
http://rajdy.autoklub.pl/gallery/sho...429530589?pg=1
Timothy van Parijs and his Porsche in the Rally Walonie 2015, isn't it beautiful? :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkHMGfFg1Ig
Is there already something known about participations in Ypres Rally/R-GT Cup?Quote:
Originally Posted by Jarek Z
No idea how serious this website is, but their preview to Ypres Rally sounds very exciting regarding the R-GT cup:
http://irc.rallye-info.com/article.a...=11&stid=12320Quote:
And if you like the idea of Snijers, van Parijs, van de Wauwer in RGT Porsches, the Kenotek Ypres Rally on 25th to 27th of June will be round 2 of the newly formed RGT World Cup and the Berlgian Porsche drivers are bound to be joined by Francois Delecour in the Tuthill Porsche!
And although not confirmed yet, in Ypres the RGT World Cup will for the first time not only be about Porsches. Amongst the cars rumoured to join the RGT fun in Ypres are a Nissan 370Z, an Aston Martin Vantage and apparently even some form of Lamborghini!
That's very optimistic. Maybe Snijers will be there because Ypres is one of his favorite events. VandeWauwer would really surprise me, he doesn't have alot of budget..Quote:
Originally Posted by wildboar
I think there was news several weeks back for Snijers to transform his GT3 to RGT specially for Ypres.Quote:
Originally Posted by wildboar
I dont believe the article. Most of the noticed cars didnt suit R-GT regulations... Despite the article is written by well-informed person...
Snijers is normally going to drive Ypres, from other Belgian GT drivers you shouldn't expect anybody... The homologation procedure alone costs around 8000 euros already, it's a small miracle at least one Belgian driver wants to start...
Few years back it was possible to start with national-homologated GT in Ypres at the end of the field. Is it still possible?
Here in CZ I think if some local GTs will do Barum rally they will be in national field.
With those new RGT rules I don't think they will do that again anyways it never had really success.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
Only FIA RGT-cars allowed in Ypres. Cars with national homologation were allowed a few years, but as mousti said it wasn't a success. According to some GT drivers back then the organizers didn't have any respect for them. For example, at TC people often even didn't knew that GT cars were coming after the ERC-field, and nobody was there anymore... After that some GT drivers agreed to not drive in Ypres again.
But I am not sure that Belgian cars will suit this new RGT rules.Quote:
Originally Posted by mousti
Ypres: according to the rally's Facebook page (https://www.facebook.com/RallyYpres), Marc Duez and Francois Delecour are registered in the RGT class. I hope there will be more.
If Snijers is going to start is mostly up to Eurosport now... I heard that Robert Woodside (who was driving the Tuthill GT3) wanted to register for ERC (and pay the 3000 euros) for the Circuit of Ireland, but they refused. So he had to start in the back of the field... I don't think Snijers will accept to start in the back of the field, the costs for making the car FIA homologated are big, sponsors must invest a lot in the project, so you expect some return for it... You could wonder why FIA created the GT class when they do things like this.
There is a difference between Circuit of Ireland and Ypres: Ypres is part of the R-GT cup, Ireland was not. As far as I remember, R-GT cup drivers also had some sort of priority in Monte Carlo. Maybe some priority for R-GT cup drivers can also be arranged for Ypres?
Here is the start list for Monte Carlo, section 1: https://acm.mc/wp-content/uploads/20...ION-1-TC01.pdf
The RGT drivers didn't have a formal priority, but were slotted between WRC2 and WRC3. For ERC classes, that would be between ERC and ERC2. I don't know if these are FIA rules or if it is up to the promoter/organizer. Thus far Eurosport has completely ignored RGT, so let's hope it is FIA rules...
Here from the Regional Rally regulations (http://www.fia.com/file/26697/download?token=hilUD9v-):
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11.3 ERC PRIORITY DRIVERS
The following priorities will be attributed to the drivers as follows:
11.3.1 ERC1 Priority for Drivers registered in the ERC or entered by an ERC registered Team as per ERC Art. 7.2.
11.3.2 ERC2 Priority for Drivers registered in the ERC 2 or entered by an ERC 2 registered Team as per ERC Art. 8.2.
11.3.3 ERC3 Priority for Drivers registered in the ERC 3 or entered by an ERC 3 registered Team as per ERC Art. 8.2.
11.3.4 RGT Priority for Drivers eligible to score points in the RGT Cup rallies as per RRR Appendix X.
So clearly, RGT drivers have some priority, if they compete in the RGT Cup (which will be the case in Ypres, but was not in Ireland).Quote:
30.8.2 All other competitors will be seeded in the start list, in their respective Priority groups (ERC1 Priority, ERC2 Priority and ERC3 Priority), as per their classification in the Qualifying stage. RGT Priority drivers will start in the ERC2 Priority group.
From the Ypres Rally Facebook page (https://www.facebook.com/RallyYpres):
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Patrick Snijers has registered in his GT Porsche. Looking forward to the battle between Delecour, Duez and Snijers. And who knows: maybe some more GT drivers to enter....
Romain Dumas also with GT3 in Ypres. :) So 4 GT3's
Turn up the volume in this one, amazing sound!
http://marzorace.tumblr.com/post/120...last-week-turn
Do they still have a R-GT passport at this Ylipahkala car?Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeppe
Why not?Quote:
Originally Posted by CWJ
I don´t think R-GT passport is only for 1 race, must be like 3 to 5 years like all other homologations.
It would be nice to see him back this year. Is there any possibilities?Quote:
Originally Posted by pantealex
R-GT Cup standings after Ypres (round 2 of 5):
1st Delecour 43 pts
2nd Duez 30 pts
3rd Snijers 25 pts
4th Dumas 18 pts
Nice photos of flying Porsches at Ypres Rally: https://twitter.com/OpensTightens/st...04594598428672
What I heard is that they are not going to compete this year... They still have that car but I don't know when they are going to race with it...Quote:
Originally Posted by samWRC
Shame to hear that. Maybe they thought the friday loop without service would have been too much for the car?Quote:
Originally Posted by donlorean
How is the project of the Mustang ? Will the car compete this year ?
Alexandre Camacho: https://igcdn-videos-e-8-a.akamaihd....35653132_n.mp4
Other: https://video-mad1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hv...16&oe=5599339B
Oh yeah good question, the more GT's the better -and not only Porsches- it would make the championship more valuable indeed. Team Floral in Belgium has planned to do the circuit version first, I think the rally version will be making its debut in the Condroz, hopefully.Quote:
Originally Posted by vino_93