I got the answer on Loeb's issue:
"Totally allowed according to FIA General Prescriptions, Art. 11.4."
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I got the answer on Loeb's issue:
"Totally allowed according to FIA General Prescriptions, Art. 11.4."
Which reads:
11.4 It is forbidden to tow or transport the cars, or to have them pushed, except in order to bring them back onto the road or to clear the road. Any infringement will be reported to the stewards.
I am dead certain that the yellow scandal press has (or will have) a report blown out of all proportions regarding this incident. Anyone has today's IL or IS at hand?
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Loeb has spun
-6.4 to Hirvonen in the ss23 in the overall 11.8 for Loeb.... the last SS have only 07,54 km...
Good time for Wilson in the ss23! 05:52.1
Goodmoring all.
Unfortunately not any big battle this weekend. This championship is just a walk in the park for Seb. After dominating the Finish stages with no obstacle at all , just Mikko being a close observer I think that the rest of the championship will be really easy for him. Ok is motorsport and everything could happen but the guy is in a class of his own. Or more correct the package Citroen-Loeb is in another level from the rest.
History will write a French winner to the Finish stages but as it seems it would mean something if Gronholm was in Sebs way to the top!!! I didn't imagine that Seb would have such an easy Rally with noone of the local drivers being able to challenge him.
Unfortunately Gronholm's retirement makes the job of the French team way to easy. Latvala and Hirvonen not close at all to Gronholm performance for the moment. Maybe a combination of the two....
And the rest are way back.
Don't misunderstand me. Is not that I don't like Seb to win, I don't mind for that, but I don't like it when it is too easy for him. Is just too bad for the sport.
I feel somehow the same kleisj. Loeb is just a class of his own right now. Strange thing is how fast Hirvonen was last year in Finland (faster than Loeb), and how he is a bit slower this year. 'a bit' Because the difference is not that big. I have the feeling that the Citroen has improved on the Ford or the other way around.
The stupid thing in WRC IMO is that only few drivers can battle for victory and that it is the same story almost every rally. Apparantly it is very hard to build a competitive WRCar, even for Subaru, which means victory is exclusive for two manufactures. Things should become a lot more simpler.
I agree with you perfectly.Quote:
Originally Posted by kleisj
What about IRC or F1? Same issue! Peugeot dominating IRC. Both McLaren and Ferrari have the upper hand in F1.Quote:
Originally Posted by HaCo
I hope that clears it up for people :) Loeb will take the win and not even the FIA can do anything about it :)Quote:
Originally Posted by jonkka
Victory for Sebastien Loeb.
Excellent win for Loeb :D
He just proved once again in this rally how good he is.
EXCELLENT 3rd place by Atko!!
That was the last thing where Auriol had been better than Loeb, now Seb is greatest French rally driver on all areas. Congratulations, excellent drive!
Yeah, I think that this is the biggest thread for Loeb´s championship. Finland has so called 0 tolerance. If you have been more than 40km/h over the limit then there is no way to get away without losing your license for at least one month. I cannot understand how Loeb can do such a stupid things on road sections.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jaanus
first stage win for Subaru :-)
FIA rules are made for LOEB we knew that for a long time now......
Also I doubt very much he will loose his licence either I would say that will get 'forgotten' about
Loeb has just spoiled one of my most favourite rallies
And few more things.. Less than 6 months ago he was also caught because of speeding in Sweden.. It wont be good thing for him as well regarding the possible decision..
well.. dont want to think about it right now..
Cocradulations to loeb
No, Atko got one in Greece, if it's not in this rally you meant...Quote:
Originally Posted by bluuford
Dont be such a sore loser, a great win for Loeb, won like it should be, man to man on the stages.Quote:
Originally Posted by ste898
Speeding in Finland can cause Seb to be banned in Finland, but not anywhere else, there is a precident for this, several drivers were banned in the UK for speeding on shakedown day in the UK, but could still compete internationally
Great result for Atkinson also, podiums always look best with 3 manus on them
Well for F1 you're right, although more manufactures are closer I think.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fly
For IRC the reason is not only complexity, I think it has more to do with only 2 manufactures that are really involved. If you see what Loix did with the Polo last year in Ypres (ok not many stages :( ) and Casier this year, you could say that VW is close as well, but they don't do full IRC, and if they run an event it's with a lot fewer cars. Casier will do some IRC rounds this year apart from Ypres, I'm curious what he will do in that car.
Jaan Mölder crash photos from Yesterday, car is totally destroyed.
http://f.postimees.ee/f/2008/08/03/61868t41h5df4.jpg
http://f.postimees.ee/f/2008/08/03/61869t41h55e1.jpg
http://f.postimees.ee/f/2008/08/03/61870t41h53a1.jpg
http://f.postimees.ee/f/2008/08/03/61871t41h4674.jpg
its like schumacher writing off a ferrari road car 3 weeks ago on the notorious nurgenburg, then last week he had another road accident in a fiat van near silverstone... they think there are invincible on the roads as they are on the tracks.Quote:
Originally Posted by bluuford
This is not very good news for Mikko. Another difficult rally similar to this one is New Zealand and if you remembered last year the amazing battle between Loeb and Marcus, Mikko was almost 2minutes behind. If Loeb come there as confident as Finland, which he will after this morale boost, it will be hard for Mikko to keep up. Mikko will find it hard to challange Loeb on speed, it's best to stay consistent and get as much points as possible.
Is this confirmed by the police or just rally radio talk?Quote:
Originally Posted by Jaanus
I think the drive of the rally for me, was Atko. I was gutted when he was down in 9th on Day 1, but to actually make up THAT much time in Finland and pass your more experienced teammate and get on the podium is very, very impressive. He is turning into real championship material (in the right machinery).
Kudos to Loeb for a solid win, but I really thought Mikko would wipe the floor with him here. Just goes to show...
In Finnish only:Quote:
Originally Posted by Koppomsbo
http://www.hs.fi/urheilu/artikkeli/S.../1135238299162
Short summary:
Loeb was caught speeding 101 kph on road with 60 kph limit last Wednesday. Police did not suspend his driver's license, unlike those of Gabor Mayer (61 kph over the limit), Andrea Cortinovis (49 kph over the limit) and Vytautas Baranauskas (41 kph over the limit, ie the same as Loeb).
All drivers are like this. EVERY SINGLE ONE. Believe me I've been overtaken by just about every driver in the WRC at some point on the road when I've been driving at or above the limit.Quote:
Originally Posted by bluuford
Strong roll cage!!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Jaanus
Shouldn't you be on the beach with your spade and bucket with mummy and daddy?Quote:
Originally Posted by ste898
Each time Loeb drives better than your beloved Ford drivers you throw all your toys out of your pram and talk about how he ruined the rally or something. Get a grip! He's the best driver out there by far and that's why he won'.
You've just spoilt one of my favourite forums :( Boohoo!
Also.... do you have to have a valid drivers licence to compete in most of the international events? Could Elena not just drive the road sections if Seb is not allowed on the road?Quote:
Originally Posted by cut the b.s.
P.S You just spoilt this forum for me :p
Atkinson 3rd in the standings, with more podiums than Latvala or Sordo, in vastly superior cars. Excellent.
Get him in a Citroen!
What an amazing win !!!! I think ridiculing the local kids in their home land was the best answer to the cheap tactics they used in Turkey to win the rally...
Very good drive by atkinson as well....
Lets see what tactic ford has in mind for Germany....
I don't want to spoil the enthusiasm but for sure is not the same.... Is different story to win Hirvonen and Atkinson and another story to win Kankounen, Alen and Vatanen on their home ground....! Is just not the same story. The result may be the same but is just not the same thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by jonkka
I think he is a driving phenomenon who is taking advantage the absence of competition. As I said before I would be really impressed if he had won with Marcus following...! But things wouldn't be the same for him if the competition was immense as it was those years when Auriol got the win in Finland.
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Originally Posted by N.O.T
The loosing tactic??
Mmmh, don't forget Dudu yet. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by kleisj
Bwahahahahaha Duval isn't Loeb. He'll push him for a few stages and then realise that he's beaten.Quote:
Originally Posted by HaCo
Probably, but he'll be the closest to Loeb I think (maybe Sordo, mmmh) and eventually in front of him (although also very close), at least I hope so.Quote:
Originally Posted by Daniel