or was it the red shirt man drinking red bull :s mokin:
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or was it the red shirt man drinking red bull :s mokin:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but as far as I remember, two brothers have never stood on the podium together in the WRc right? Unless something dramatic happens tomorrow, that might well happen this time.
Anyway, it's nice to see the subaru performing decently. Maybe we will se one of Petters famous final day attacks again? 28 seconds is not a big lead, even for Loeb.
Don't think so, if you count out the Panizzi brothers of course.Quote:
Originally Posted by Englandsfahrer
If Loeb has the same problems he had this morning, then 30 secs is nothing.
I'm praying for a Solberg win, but a Solberg 1-2 would be beyond belief!
For the first time ever (I'm gonna get slated for this!) I want a driver to retire...Come on Loeb, give us a damper failure in the Citroen and I'll be a happy man.
Anything can happen, S14 can win in its first rally but they can also end up with zero points. Petters confidence is coming back fast :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by Englandsfahrer
I honestly don't care if he wins or comes in 4th, as long as he gets his confidence and speed back. It's much more fun watching him when he's properly having a go, like when he set the ouninpohja (spelt wrong, right?) record.Quote:
Originally Posted by Viking
Nope you spelt it right ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Englandsfahrer
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/I...-on_139970.htm
28secs and loeb sweeping the road, petter could actually win... (or push too hard and loose verything, hope not)
Best would be if both Loeb and Petter retires, and a guy who is a 0 for a driver would win, that might put people to think a bit.
Think about what? It's a typical rally Acropolis. The strongest wins, not the fastest. To finish first you first need to finish.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tomi
It's just driver errors wich has made the guys have problems so only fair really...
So, like Latvalas turbo?Quote:
Originally Posted by SUBARUNORWAY1
Stupid comment, I would be jumping around, and so would Stobart team :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Tomi
for that have rallys raids... i donīt like this rallys is stupid, I donīt no if its a problem whit drivers or cars or the stage...but...so many retirements, so many problem its not good...and that happened so many times...Quote:
Originally Posted by White Sauron
Exsagtly he should have reconsidered using the launch control at the start think lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Mauri A
Whats thats got to do with the rally btw? go shout at Stephan Lorioux on that one maybe ;)
I don't see your problem. In the past, they drove much more km's in a rally so there were much more retirements and problems for drivers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fiorio
Me on the other hand like the wrc just because of this. In Ralley Raids only the strongest can win. In the WRC though, you need to be good at different things. That's why, even in todays situation, the WRC is worth watching. Even specialists can win something. For example, Panzzi was unbeatable on asphalt for a while. To win the Championship though, you have to be good at everything. Loeb being the prime example of just that. An asphalt specialist who has expanded his skills to conquer all surfaces and conditions. He still has a little to learn in extreme winter conditions, but compared to the drivers who only master one surface, or only high or low speed rallies, he is a true wrc driver. I honestly think the wrc should have even more different rallies, (like the safari) to give specialists more of a chance. Maybe then, in their individual events, they could push Loeb down from the top of the podium, thus making the point difference from Loeb to the other good allrounders smaler?Quote:
Originally Posted by Fiorio
This is not the worst Acropolis either; I remember teams used to re-shell cars run here, and some stages that looked like dried out rivers!
at day 1 both focus of Mikko and Jarri and Khalid ,hit the same stone at the end of last stage...
stones,ditches are part of rallies mates!
No matter what people think of Petter, it is good for the sport to have one more manufacturer fighting in the top.
The S14 seems to be a notch faster than S12B, and much more to come !!
Lets see what happens tomorrow, but Petter has said that his morning tacticks will be to try to secure 2nd, but things might change.....
Also Hope Henning will get a podium, he is fast on gravel, but need more training on Asfalt, there he is lost !!!!!!!!!
Like I said, today will be very difficult day and only the leader of the rally will be on the same place after day two. I was wrong! Urmo is again fifth.
Anyone knows why Urmo Aava lost that much time during the second split?
I think that the problem was Sordo? Anyone heard anything from WRR?
Sordo got 60 sek penalties before stage 13. that means he started just before Aava, and Aava lost something like 40 sek on the second split and 3 se on the last split. And from his comments you can see that he said: "no comments you will see"
Anyone can confirm that?
The odds for Henning Solberg winning was 1:60 (at expect.com)Quote:
Originally Posted by Tomi
The odds for Petter was 1.18 (will probably be lower in Turkey)
I must support Petter for the win now that the Ford are way down.......
I was right.. Aava was slowed by Sordoīs dust:-(Quote:
Originally Posted by bluuford
But tomorrow will be very interesting day again :-)
And the McRae brothers I think in RAC (don't remember the year though..)Quote:
Originally Posted by SUBARUNORWAY1
Think you mean 95 and Alister was fourth.Quote:
Originally Posted by kleisj
A good day for us norwegians, I hold my thumbs for a troublefree tomorrow - it would have been very nice with 2 Solbergs on the podium.
Otherwise, very interesting to see the new Subaru, a little slow start, but pretty impressive debut, I think. I've just seen some incar footage with Petter, and I think it is obvious that the new car is much more balanced. You could clearly see that Petter didn't have to adjust the steering wheel all the time, and the car wasn't wobbling from side to side as we have seen many times the last year. There is surely a bit left to directly compete with the pace of C4 and Focus, but a very promising start, IMO.
Also nice to see Henning in competetive pace, after 2 days just a bit over 1 minute behind Seb.
I look forward to tomorrow - and the rest of the season!
Day 2 is over with many mixed feelings.
I really thought that today the Fords will make a nice comeback and fight for the win. Seb would make road sweeping and Fords flat out. Not the case. Bad luck for both.
My first surprise was the starting order. I saw Hirvo 2nd in the starting order and I was wondering why. Probably they kept their road positions before yesterday's Super special stage.
I was at ss8 & 11 at Aghii Theodori. Really disappointing to see Latvala being really late cruising to the end of the stage.
This Acropolis has proved to be one of the roughest. The stages were really bad. Too many rocks and too many victims as well. Osteberg had 3 punctures.!!! on the 24th km of the stage he arrived with his front right tyre flat. After that I heard on the stewards intercom that he was missing. He had stopped to change the tyre. Organizers need to search for better stages next year or go back to Lamia area. The whole spectacle was poor, since it became a survival game.
Solberg Peter was very spectacular. Good to see him fight again. The crowd went mad when he arrived at the service park.
The Red Bull effect. The two PWRC guys sousa and aigner were the most spectacular to watch. Really fast and very very sideways. Aava also . Very impressive world class driving.
Day 3 is starting and I will be at Assopia stage ss15&18. Is a nice stage to watch and drive, not too many rocks there.
is it possible there is something more sinister goin on? like aava illegally giving sordo a spare tyre to save sordo from retiring on road section? would citroen pull a stunt like that? i know they're peed off about the control tyre.Quote:
Originally Posted by bluuford
No, it is not possible. You cannot give extra spare tire in 39 sek and bar codes are checked. He was just stuck behind in his dust. Daniīs GPS signal was lost and therefore team didn't know when Aava reached to the back of Sordos C4.Quote:
Originally Posted by Larry_Japan
The only way to change tires is to give it on the stage and switch it back after the stage.. but too risky in my opinion.
Attachment 1849Quote:
Originally Posted by HaCo
Tom, I didn't use the technical wording in my post, by "power" I meant more "muscles". Yes, no turbo (just high revs :) ) but the car is visually faster.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom206wrc
Here is picture for you ;)
Attachment 1850
Shoulden't Sordo be out cos of what you see at 3:10?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtLGcgDmYhI
Ford boys have not been as smart as Loeb. But the big news in this rally is that Petter has gained his confidence and is drivng as he should be
I'm going to be the dissenting voice here.
I've seen nothing that tells me Subaru are back. If you take out the misfortune that hit the Fords and mistakes by other drivers, Subaru would still be in the same boat that they were in with the new car. They've been fortunate this rally, which as anyone knows is a feature of the Acropolis.
I would have LOVED to be there for that moment.Quote:
Originally Posted by kleisj
Go Petter for the WIN!!!