Israel refuses peace negotiations

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Originally Posted by Rani

Does that mean you justify intentional harming of innocent people?

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But this is exactly what Israel is doing against the Palestinian people by their illegial use of "Collective Punishment".

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Originally Posted by leopardsleeping

Btw what kind of response do you expect from posting that link?

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I'm just trying to show the complete absurdity of comparing Israel to Nazi Germany and portraying Palestinians as harmless and innocent. How could someone brought up watching "Children's Club" and brainwashed through all branches of media ever want peace?
Also, what would you do if you were faced with someone who will stop at nothing to see you dead? I guess when there isn't a will to stop the violence (by Hamas and the other groups) there isn't a chance for peace.
Would you negotiate with someone who says "I want peace" but also claims "you don't have a right to exist"?

The sentence may not yet end, you don't have a right to exist here, or you have right to exist but not here, how it sounds? ;)

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Originally Posted by Rani

Would you negotiate with someone who says "I want peace" but also claims "you don't have a right to exist"?

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Yes, I would try to talk him to change his mind. Talking does no harm, even when it's not working. Violence does do harm, and it isn't working either. 60 years of violence should be enough to prove it doesn't work.

I think it goes back to what I said before about people not being bothered with killing each other when they have jobs, electricity and non-bulldozed houses.

True, talking does no harm, the will on talking would reflect seriousness to terminate the violence.

If anyone has been 'brainwashed' it is the rest of the world into believing that what ever Israel does is right, because of the terrible horrors that have been perpetrated upon them in the past.

They can treat Palestinains as second class citizens and practise "Collective Punishment" against them.

One big myth that is constantly played out is that Jews were the only ones persecuted by the nazis and kept in concentration camps, when this is plainly not true and I find quite offensive.

I thought the bit about Israel not having the right to exist had been refuted quite a few post ago in this thread.

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Originally Posted by Daniel

I think it goes back to what I said before about people not being bothered with killing each other when they have jobs, electricity and non-bulldozed houses.

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Well said.

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Originally Posted by Camelopard

If anyone has been 'brainwashed' it is the rest of the world into believing that what ever Israel does is right, because of the terrible horrors that have been perpetrated upon them in the past.
They can treat Palestinains as second class citizens and practise "Collective Punishment" against them.

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That's was the bone of contention, if you don't have any problem translating my old posts they said basically the same. :s

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Originally Posted by Camelopard

If anyone has been 'brainwashed' it is the rest of the world into believing that what ever Israel does is right, because of the terrible horrors that have been perpetrated upon them in the past.

They can treat Palestinains as second class citizens and practise "Collective Punishment" against them.

One big myth that is constantly played out is that Jews were the only ones persecuted by the nazis and kept in concentration camps, when this is plainly not true and I find quite offensive.

I thought the bit about Israel not having the right to exist had been refuted quite a few post ago in this thread.

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That's pretty much it. Israel has backing from the US because of the money but also gets the sympathy vote from the rest because of the Holocaust. In my mind it's 60 years ago. Get over it and move on with life now. Not nice to say but the Russians lost a lot more people in WW2 but don't go on about it all the time.