George Zimmerman verdict just in . . .

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Originally Posted by Spafranco

Then the dramatic statements of self defense and the 'driving his head into the pavement' giving the impression of a seething megalomaniac

rather than a 17 year old kid.

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The argument about his age is just a ploy to prey on emotions.

I have seen some 17 year old "kids" who would and could gladly tear you into bits.

BTW at 5/11 Martin stood over 4 inches taller than George Zimmerman.

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Originally Posted by Daniel

The part that most people are trying to emphasize, and also what she mentions as well, is that Zimmerman created the situation, he should have stopped before it got there, he put Martin in a position where HE clearly felt threatened and chose to become the aggressor.

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You are absolutely correct. How the jury dismissed the fact that Zimmerman was told to stay in the car by the

police dispatcher was ignored is hard to fathom.

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Originally Posted by Starter

Martin "clearly" felt threatened? Or was he just just pissed off? Not you, I or anyone else knows that for sure.

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So you are of the same opinion concerning Zimmerman. One very clear issue is the fact that he disobeyed a police dispatcher.

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Originally Posted by anthonyvop

The argument about his age is just a ploy to prey on emotions.

I have seen some 17 year old "kids" who would and could gladly tear you into bits.

BTW at 5/11 Martin stood over 4 inches taller than George Zimmerman.

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What has that got to do with the price of bread?

How heavy is Zimmerman?

I am 6feet 1 inch. I have a nephew about the same age as Martin. 6'4'. Could I wrestle him to the ground without having to kill him? Certainly I

could. My mass as is the case with Zimmerman and Trayvon Martin would be sufficient to repel any attempts at him trying to overcome me.

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Originally Posted by Spafranco

You are absolutely correct. How the jury dismissed the fact that Zimmerman was told to stay in the car by the

police dispatcher was ignored is hard to fathom.

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1. He was never told to stay in the car. Nice lie that I hear the traybots repeat often, though.
2. He wasn't talking to the police, just a regular dispatcher on a non-emergency line
3. Even if he were told that, he is not at all legally required to listen to them.
4. It's irrelevant to the self defense claim.
5. In summary, it never happened, and even if it did it would be irrelevant and not illegal

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Originally Posted by anthonyvop

BTW at 5/11 Martin stood over 4 inches taller than George Zimmerman.

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at 5/7 you shouldn't go looking for trouble, unless the size of your gun compensates for your (lack of) stature :andrea: :laugh:

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Originally Posted by anthonyvop

A higher crime rate is one the downsides of not living in a police state like the UK where you can be arrested for just having an opinion.

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Here we go again. Have you ever been outside of the US in Europe in one of those so called police states, you know, places where the police

don't even carry guns.

When was the last time someone or a case of someone being sent to trial for uttering something you perceive as OK here in the US but to be criminal in the UK?

I have this sneaking suspicion that you are jealous of the British because of their freedom to walk the streets at night. Not having to worry

about drive by shootings. Not having to worry about my 17 year old being shot for wearing a huddy in my nice gated community by some fool

becoming judge and jury. I like the fact that in the UK your son may get home after a talking to by either a/ the police or b/ whomever is in

charge of security.

I would however guarantee you one thing. He would be alive and not shot to death for looking suspicious.

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Originally Posted by vhatever

1. He was never told to stay in the car. Nice lie that I hear the traybots repeat often, though.

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Zimmerman's voice, meanwhile, comes through on a 911 call he made around that time, telling a dispatcher about "a real suspicious guy."
"This guy looks like he's up to no good, or he's on drugs or something. It's raining, and he's just walking around."
The dispatcher asked Zimmerman, who'd called 911 at least four times previously for other incidents, if he was following the person. He replies, "Yes."
"OK. We don't need you to do that," the dispatcher responded.
But Zimmerman followed him anyway.

Tell me, what is a traybot? A slur on those that grieve the death of a 17 year old. Your juvenile theatrics minimizing a life.

Your contribution is nothing but crass and veiled bigotry along with self serving ideology and plaudits from many on this thread.

You are wrong on every point you posted in response to my answer to someone else. Have you even read anything about the case? By the way, what I posted is an official statement.

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Originally Posted by vhatever

.... Welcome to 4 posts ago, Matlock.

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Why the need for personal insults?

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Originally Posted by Daniel

So you guys are OK for someone who essentially dished out the death penalty to someone who was at worst, a minor burglar?

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Absolutely not ok, but to convict someone of murder or manslaughter, the case has to be proved beyond any reasonable doubt. All evidence that was available in favor of Zimmerman's self defense argument cast more than enough of such doubt. What we have is a strong evidence of Zimmerman using a gun in response to a deadly force used against him, which is something Zimmerman's bashers on TV conveniently fail to understand or mention.