This is hardly a revelation to anyone. All countries will have in them parts where violent crime is higher than in others, and where more robberies take place. What's your point?Quote:
Originally Posted by Roamy
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This is hardly a revelation to anyone. All countries will have in them parts where violent crime is higher than in others, and where more robberies take place. What's your point?Quote:
Originally Posted by Roamy
I don't feel the need for any citizen to possess a gun in the name of stopping crime. Never once have I felt so frightened as to consider that a gun would be of protection. And your comment justifying Tony's moronic use of those pictures to portray a Europe beset by violent crime is pathetic.Quote:
Originally Posted by airshifter
I've said in the past that my gun ownership has nothing to do with a "need" or even "desire" to have one for self protection. The state I live in allows concealed carry and I've never felt any need to apply for one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eki
Why have one, then? To make a political point? When it comes to implements — as opposed to books, DVDs and other items I buy for my own amusement — I don't own anything I don't actually need. What's the point in that?Quote:
Originally Posted by airshifter
I don't own my guns for self protection either. But I had a family member that lived in a less safe area that made a home invader flee after threats to her person. I suspect she avoided bodily harm due to brandishing, not using, a gun.Quote:
Originally Posted by BDunnell
Hitler had reasoning behind what he did....Quote:
And your comment justifying Tony's moronic use of those pictures to portray a Europe beset by violent crime is pathetic.
"The most foolish mistake we could possibly make would be to allow the subject races to possess arms. History shows that all conquerors who have allowed their subject races to carry arms have prepared their own downfall by so doing. Indeed, I would go so far as to say that the supply of arms to the underdogs is a sine qua non for the overthrow of any sovereignty. So let's not have any native militia or native police. German troops alone will bear the sole responsibility for the maintenance of law and order throughout the occupied Russian territories, and a system of military strong-points must be evolved to cover the entire occupied country." --Adolf Hitler, dinner talk on April 11, 1942, quoted in Hitler's Table Talk 1941-44: His Private Conversations, Second Edition (1973), Pg. 425-426. Translated by Norman Cameron and R. H. Stevens. Introduced and with a new preface by H. R. Trevor-Roper. The original German papers were known as Bormann-Vermerke.
From Nazi Gun Control
Today most of Europe is higher in crime in almost every aspect other than murder than the US is. That's another fact
Being that you can't address any post by Tony without attacks against his person, you obviously don't have a clear point of view on his posts IMO. I'll assume it's no longer worth commenting on.
Strange how so many of the the Americans here can point to such instances, whereas us Europeans generally can't.Quote:
Originally Posted by airshifter
My point of view on his opinions is entirely clear, I would have thought. It's not my fault if you can't comprehend it.Quote:
Originally Posted by airshifter
What is the net effect though? The situation which exists in the United States is a wider market where guns are more readily accessible. The law in effect actually enables people to have the ability to commit more crime. That's fine I suppose, if that is how you wish to define the culture.Quote:
Originally Posted by airshifter
Lets sum up gun ownership in two;
Educated & principled individual + gun = no problem
twat + gun = recipe for disaster
Let's take it one step further then.Quote:
Originally Posted by SGWilko
Totally outlaw guns;
Educated & principled individual - gun(due to respect for the law) = unarmed and unprotected
twat + gun(due to lack of respect for the law) = still a twat more likely now to commit a crime on those unarmed and unprotected with much less fear of reprisals.
No. Twat less likely now to commit a crime because it's now much harder to acquire guns in the first place.Quote:
Originally Posted by chuck34