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Hey, it's one thing to squirt off them extinguishers during that pre-season rehearsal but there's a lot of maintenance and cost when practising with them hoses.
That's sarcasm and some truth. I have sympathy for the safety team. These guys didn't want to **** up. They just looked unprepared and that's most likely a systemic problem.
maybe, but my old, old, slow beat up ass would know what to do, and it is not panick and try to pull somebody sideways and down, who has to stand up to get out of the car--in a manner that keeps her from getting out....Quote:
Originally Posted by Marbles
yeah the fire is hot and scary and no one wants to get close to it, but that is what you are there for..NOT to have a great seat to see the race......if not willing to step up, then do not be there :D
I am not about to critique the one guy who risked his own ass and stood there in the flames trying to get her out. As others have pointed out the head restraint system is a bit tough to handle in calmer conditions. He may have been a bit ham fisted but he stayed there risking injury to himself in the process.Quote:
Originally Posted by markabilly
My beef is with the guys who just stood there with limp hoses in their hands and watched. (Read whatever innuendo you'd like into that. All apply.) Those guys need to have a face to face with Simona and she should spit in each one's face. But she is too classy an act for that.
Gary
With regards to the race itself there were a lot of close moments and excitement. However, I get the same feeling watching these races that I got watching the Hanford races in CART. I feel dirty.
And cheap.
I was at the Champ Car race at Vegas when they ran the road course wings. I thought it was pretty exciting... running side by side, nose to tail, passes every other lap. Course, it was about 2 in the morning when we got out of there, so the bugs in the overhead lights seemed exciting to me too. But after the race I started thinking about it, and yeah, it did have that manufactured feel to it. But it, like this race, did play pretty well at first blush. But no, I don't want to analyze what I saw too much. Best to treat this kind of like a one night stand and stick with that initial memory.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marbles
Like I said, this is the first IRL race I've watched in total since the one that was sent to me on a VHS tape over ten years ago (anybody know what happened to MDRaceFan?). I've watched bits & pieces of several, but never a complete race. It didn't suck and I'll probably watch another one in the future.
In my time as a marshal, driver, wrench etc. I fought 4 car and 1 bike fire. Didn't lose one. I did receive training and as an official watched the Air Force do a demo fire fighting session for the marshals.
Sometimes it just takes a little clear thinking.
At Trois Rivieres one year an Alfa caught fire in the paddock. There were several extinguishers, including a couple of 20 lbs being used to little effect as they could not get the hood open. I grabbed our little motorhome 2 lb deal and trotted over. I let loose into an empty headlight pod that I figured was an air intake to the Webbers. I was right. One blast and it was out.
Not a hero. I just spotted a way to attack the fire without the hood being up.
But the IC crew should be prepared for things to go wrong. They are supposed to be trained to a high standard. Robin Miller described them as Keystone Cops.
I'm pretty sure that would be Davey Hamilton.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jag_Warrior
it will be interesting to see if and how they address the simona fire on the next broadcast....
im predicting a nice feel good segment on the safety team... how they have addressed fires and similar situations.... there reaction at Indy and Conway.....a renewed commitment etc....
*and I'll be OK with it.....not to excuse or sweep what happened last saturday nite under the rug, but sometimes a wake-up call is exactly that.... a wake up call
I would like to know what Davey Hamilton would have thought if it had been HIS butt and body being toasted by a fubar. Talk's cheap when you're in the broadcast booth.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lousada