Renault get a 2 year suspended ban

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21st September 2009, 20:51
F1boat

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Originally Posted by Firstgear

With Flav out of Renault, maybe he'll run to become the new president. :D

Mwahaha! :evil:
21st September 2009, 22:11
ioan

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Originally Posted by Firstgear

With Flav out of Renault, maybe he'll run to become the new president. :D

The ruling prohibits him any kind of links with anything related to the FIA.
22nd September 2009, 00:08
Saint Devote

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Originally Posted by SGWilko

You'd have to say the quick reaction by the Reggie to kick 'da management' out of F1 saved their bacon....

My opinion is that Pat's loyalty to Flav has cost him dear.

Loyalty by definition does not include a cost - for Symonds it is merely the price, not a sacrifice.

And we still are none the wiser.

The end of the era of Flavio is like that of Caligula - in the end nothing will have changed.

Those that trumpet Flavio's going are no better than the Caligula conspirators because the FIA is rotten to its core with their secret agreements and selective punishments. The praetorian guard will still triumph!

And so begins the demise of Renault team f1 to become as all the auto manufacturers teams - bereft of success.
22nd September 2009, 00:15
Saint Devote

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Originally Posted by ioan

So, it's bye bye Flav! :wave:
One scumbag less.

You declare so with the name of Michael Schumacher displayed as your motto?!!!

Who are you? The statue of Janus?!
22nd September 2009, 00:17
ioan

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Originally Posted by Saint Devote

You declare so with the name of Michael Schumacher displayed as your motto?!!!

Who are you? The statue of Janus?!

I'm me! Who are you?! :rotflmao:
22nd September 2009, 00:17
Daniel

I''ll have what he's having
22nd September 2009, 00:18
airshifter

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Originally Posted by Saint Devote

Loyalty by definition does not include a cost - for Symonds it is merely the price, not a sacrifice.

And we still are none the wiser.

The end of the era of Flavio is like that of Caligula - in the end nothing will have changed.

Those that trumpet Flavio's going are no better than the Caligula conspirators because the FIA is rotten to its core with their secret agreements and selective punishments. The praetorian guard will still triumph!

And so begins the demise of Renault team f1 to become as all the auto manufacturers teams - bereft of success.

I think F1 and it's fan base are far wiser for investigation and doing what needed to be done. This was flat out crooked race fixing. It wasn't stealing design to gain advantage, it wasn't trying to copy another car.

Flavio has no place in F1 as it stands. For them to set such a precedent and allow him to stay would be suicide in the eyes of most fans. Renault took the high road, and took action on their own before the FIA hearings. By comparison, Mclaren took the low road by involving more people, repeated lies, and covering up everything they could until proven guilty.

I will have much more respect for Renault even if the team does falter, than I could possibly have if they protected a race fixer and swept it under the rug.
22nd September 2009, 00:27
Saint Devote

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Originally Posted by Daniel

Yeah but Renno FIXED a race, McLaren didn't.

And Ferrari with the eager agreement of the FIA fixed the rules.

The concretes may be different but the abstract dishonesty is the same. That nest of vices known as the FIA with its kangaroo courts has reached a low point that ought to have the honest men in f1 speak out.

But they are weak.

And the public? The so-called racing fans - they happily bray and moan at the moon and yell and cheer as peasants in the Dark Aged did as the blood flowed from the torture dispensed by the Inquisitions.

They castigate Briatore and Symonds and Renault. Hypocricy and schadenfreude are the order of the day.

God help this sport from its rulers and its so-called fans - after all it looks as if Bernie is right - the future of this sport is better leveraged towards the East than the West.

God help this sport!
22nd September 2009, 00:30
Valve Bounce

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Originally Posted by I am evil Homer

Symonds is a clever guy but he really messed up in his assumption that Flav was still Mr Teflon. Bye bye Flav...you won't be missed by me. as for the "suspended ban" it means nothing, IMO Renault got off lightly by shifting all blame to Flav.

I don't think they made any allowance for a piqued Jr. That basically let the cat out of the bag, and doomed these two buggers.
22nd September 2009, 00:38
Saint Devote

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Originally Posted by airshifter

I think F1 and it's fan base are far wiser for investigation and doing what needed to be done. This was flat out crooked race fixing. It wasn't stealing design to gain advantage, it wasn't trying to copy another car.

Flavio has no place in F1 as it stands. For them to set such a precedent and allow him to stay would be suicide in the eyes of most fans. Renault took the high road, and took action on their own before the FIA hearings. By comparison, Mclaren took the low road by involving more people, repeated lies, and covering up everything they could until proven guilty.

I will have much more respect for Renault even if the team does falter, than I could possibly have if they protected a race fixer and swept it under the rug.

What we have witnessed is not justice, but whimsical punishment by a power.

I am sorry that Flavio is gone. Nevertheless he will retire to his island with its luxury home, his beautiful wife and know that he remains the most successful principal of his era.

Two of the best drivers his gift and a Renault team that won championships.

The derision by little people, little nobody's on this forum who choose to emotionalistically celebrate his demise and choose to forget what he gave this sport and therefore the fans, is a magnificent disgrace.

I am pleased that I am not coated by their stench.

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