WRC 1.6T or IRC S2000

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Originally Posted by Iskald

Exactly what do you mean by worldly car and engine platforms? From an american standpoint the WRC should then preferably be fought out with 1,6 ton rearwheeldrive cars, and engine platform should be cast iron V8`s with or without restrictor plates depending on the nature (speed) of the different rallies. Isn`t that a "worldly" car and engine platform for an american?

Honestly, I haven`t made up my mind if 1.6T is the right way to go or not. I just suspect that proper WRC rally cars needs a turbo and the engine torque that comes with it to remain spectacular and fast enough. In my eyes S2000 is just way to slow to maintain interest as the spearhead of international rallying.

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I don't know about all of America but in the U.S. a street car that you could use for rally would be: Ford Focus 2.0L, Volvo C30 or S40 2.5L, Subaru STI 2.5L, Mitsubishi EVO 2.0L, Mazda 3 not sure, Saab 2.0L, Chevrolet Cobalt SS 2.0L,Honda Civic Si 2.0L, Honda Fit 1.5L, Nissan Sentra SE-R 2.5, Scion TC 2.3L, Scion XD 2.3L, VW GTI Jetta Rabbit Beetle come with Petrol and TDI engines, Lexus IS 2.5L, Audi A3 2.0L, Audi TT 2.0L, Toyota Matrix 2.3L, Dodge Neon 2.0L. I'm sure there are many I am forgetting but as you can see not all cars here in the U.S. are big V8's. Even so it would be interesting to see a G8 or CTS-V on a tarmac rally!

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Originally Posted by AndyRAC

Well I can't imagine BMW or Seat would do the WRC, so that's 2 less possible Manufacturers.

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Why neither Seat's?

Has been in the WRC some years ago... :D

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Originally Posted by RAS007

If the FIA hadn't f*cked it all up in the first place, there wouldn't even be an IRC. It is exactly because of the mismanagement of the WRC by the FIA that there was enough interest in the first place to start a break away series.

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Why you all are talking about the past?

Look at future, Dave Richards is not being rally's Bernie Ecclestone (and all the crazy proposed to a "VIP" series).

Is coming back soon to spectators. Look at the proposal of last WMSC, then we can talk! ;)

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Originally Posted by Torsen

i cringe when i see an s2000 hit a hairpin on dry tarmac...

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Try from 5:55 :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrtMfLZRSuU

If we assume that the new cars are going to be 1.6T. What manufactures are in? Has someone made a list of potential newcommers to the Wrc? It is a bit strange that i've not heard anyone else than Citroen and Ford...

I heard Mini is thinking about joining WRC.

Volkswagen has expressed their interest as we know, but i hav'nt heard anything about them recently.. Fiat? Renault?

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Originally Posted by J.Lindstroem

If we assume that the new cars are going to be 1.6T. What manufactures are in? Has someone made a list of potential newcommers to the Wrc? It is a bit strange that i've not heard anyone else than Citroen and Ford...

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I think that's been the problem since Ford and Citroen will only go 1.6T if at least one other manufacturer commits to the series, otherwise it's 2.0 N/A. Perhaps things have moved on since that was the case and for all we know there may well be somebody waiting to sign up. As far as I can see it won't be just the FIA that decides. The WRC is Ford and Citroen and they will get exactly what they want.

I'm not sure what value we can place on various manufacturers "expressing an interest" in the WRC. Really means nothing.

Opel?

Proton?

gpweek.com has a bit from Quensel stating that Citroen have stopped development work on their S2000 car but still say the new wrc car will be the DS3. Interesting bit from Quensel was that there were 30 unsold 207's along with the cars from Skoda, and FIAT looking for purchasers. Quensel gave a confusing message about the economy not supporting Citroen embarking on an S2K car. In another bit in gpweek it said that WRC cars will come from class N4, thereby allowing Group N cars (from Subaru and Mitsu) S2000 N/A and teh new 1.6T cars to compete.