It's a lesson DP and Marco Andretti should learn, what should you do for your team when your teammate is faster, tangle with each other?
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It's a lesson DP and Marco Andretti should learn, what should you do for your team when your teammate is faster, tangle with each other?
But Mika didn't have benefit of full on team orders.Quote:
Originally Posted by tamburello
I'm not saying have a numebr 1 driver etc is unsuccessful. I'm just saying F1 is a team sport and an individual sport. When you have a number one to that extent, your going against the very principles of sport.
Sport is about competing, your main competitor is your team-mate, MS and Ferrari denied us of that - in that respect its not at all sporting.
I no not taking advantage of it would be silly if that was their policy, I'm merely pointing out its an incredibly unsporting policy to take on in what is still at the end of the day a sport!
Can you give me a link of when RD said at beginning of season Lewis is number 1? I've never heard that before.Quote:
Originally Posted by markabilly
But your forgetten, Ferrari have done the same thing, Brazil last year, and that decided the title. And no one complained.Quote:
Originally Posted by mstillhere
Majority of real mature F1 fans don’t mind team orders when done reasonably. They understand it’s a team sport as well as an individual sport. But the individual aspect (i.e drivers championship) must be respected, and given an equal shot from the word go.
I think it’s a safe bet to say Ferrari (post MS) and McLaren have got the right approach when it comes to team orders.
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Originally Posted by ioan
Come someone give me a source of Heikki complaining about this?
I've heard this several times, and despite being a daily F1 website user, I aint seen this article.
Also, I can comfirm 100% the team did not tell Heikki to move over. Because thats breaking the rules. They let him know of the situation, and he acted upon it on how the team works.
If people are against this particular move - whats your response to Heidfeld letting Kubica past at Canada?
That actually did change the result of the race!
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Originally Posted by ioan
If its the article I think your on about (maybe post a link when your refering to an article :) ).
Ron was purely answering questions about what Jackie Stewart said (he reckons Heikki should be Lewis No.2). Ron was merely saying no he is not.
And he is, if Heikki was faster than lewis, do you honestly believe he'd have been told to let him past?
Actually, if you read the article, it says no such thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by mstillhere
Martin says that Hekki is a fast driver that is not realising his potential. They will work with him to ensure he does.
Can't read anything in there that says they are ... ummm... neglegting him ;)
Heikki's raw pace has been questioned here.
I personally think he has some psychological problems (like Hamilton had). Recall Hockenheim qualifying. He was making mistakes on almost every flying lap. HK in some way may seem like a "softer" character, who needs 100% team support and confidence to fulfill his full potential. He may feel he hasn't deserved the McLaren drive 100%, but got it more due to circumstances (there were rumours like McL was more interested in some other guys). He may think something like "I really need to push hard and prove that I'm worthy of McLaren drive", instead of which the attitude should me more like "I know I'm good - I just drive my race and results will come". Such transition has to be found.
At the start of 2007 Kovalainen was quite erratic too as the expectations were high. He found his form in the second half of 2007 and remember - at the start of 2008 season he was quite quick too by managing to outqualify Hamilton on a couple of occasions and in races was closer to LH than he is now. But after the wave of unluck he has lost pace. It's strange because he should be more adapted to the car than he was at the start of the season. Something doesn't seem right to me here and hence I think Heikki is more capable than what he is showing at the moment.
In the last races Hamilton has seemed free of psychological pressure. It has seemed like he has really enjoyed playing with the field by destroying them and inferior strategies and critical situations (Germany) have actually given him an extra boost of confidence to show his superiority. This is something Heikki has to reach.
Couldn't agree with you more.Quote:
Originally Posted by jens
I like Hekki and the 2 drivers seem to Gel well together.
We know Hekki is quick but he's had a bit of bad luck for a couple of races and it's got to him.
Lewis is, as you say, riding the crest of the wave at the moment and Hekki is struggleing. A lot of this is mindset IMHO. Lewis has found a groove where he just seems to get faster the less he tries where Hekki is going slower the more effort he puts in.
For sure, the McLaren is a car that lends itself to a quick driver on the edge but overdrive it, and it doesn't respond well. It's a real drivers car and a pilot that has confidence in it will excell.
Take Germany. Hekki needed to have more downforce on the front to have confidence to pull it round where Lewis was confident that it would turn in and hold speed and any under / oversteer could be corrected by the driver.
That's fine on a qualifying lap but Hekki needs to have the confidence to translate into the race.
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Originally Posted by Jag_Warrior