i think so yes and diffuser also first time.Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
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i think so yes and diffuser also first time.Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
Is it really 1.8t, I did´t know that FIAT has that kind of motor.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
R-GT should be with production motor.
I think that it is Alfa Romeo engine (actually 1,75 litre).Quote:
Originally Posted by pantealex
Interesting news in MN today about VW. According to FXD they tested the definitive 2017 spec Polo somewhere 'close to Finland'.
They have been testing there for the last two weeks with a car that looks very visually different to the car we've seen testing to date. They are thrilled no pictures surfaced, although they suspect spies from Toyota were in attendance.
Apparently the front bumper is completely different. With a bigger rear bumper and different diffuser. Front and rear fenders have changed. Sounds like the rears have air intakes like we've seen on the Toyota. Also new bonnet and wider doors. Plus a bigger rear wing with more overhang.
It really is an exciting time for rally fans. Crazy to think we've been watching these cars test for months, but apart from the Citroen we've not really seen anything definitive in terms of the aero of these cars.
Why is it that british media fabricate news when they do not have anything to report ?
If you're talking about mainstream UK newspapers then yes this is often true. They don't talk about rallying at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
But in this case. Everything I wrote above is a summary of direct quotes from Technical Director Francois-Xavier Demaison. So I think it's all good info. Not point VW lying about something that will eventually be revealed to everyone. They won't be able to keep the car under wraps for much longer.
VW has definitely been testing in Finland a couple of weeks ago, and since no pictures has come up the MN story probably is correct!
Love this. A proper air of mystery with competiting teams allegedly spying. Halcyon days chaps.Quote:
Originally Posted by Simmi
one more of Abbring yesterday https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLtEbI6Fd04
Test Days Abbring i20Wrc 2017 in Spain Gravel .. #photos gallery http://bit.ly/2c8unOG
There were photos but only with that "Mule" 2017, Jämsä area.Quote:
Originally Posted by AMSS
Teemu / Rallirinki @HartusvuoriWRC
Tommi Mäkinen's team have continued #YarisWRC #WRC2017 tests this week in Finland. Hänninen keeps driving the car. @TGR_WRC
Shame we learned about it the day they left. Would've been interesting to see the new bodywork, if so.Quote:
Originally Posted by pantealex
Jämsä area must be the key location for 2017 testing. Toyota, of course, shows up every other week. VW have been there three times, including the premiere of 2017 mules last August. Citroen did a week there early summer. Hyundai and Ford are still missing from the list, but I think one of them could atill show up.
A Portuguese friend of mine sent me this link from his local paper. Looks like VW are back in Portugal.
http://www.acomarcadearganil.pt/arga...undial-rallys/
Unbranded trucks. Don't ask me what the Procar truck is doing there. Maybe a decoy? Who knows but if VW are there then we could be 1/2 days away from seeing the near-final 2017-spec car.
Finally rallying is getting exciting again! This season has a real feeling of the mid 90's about it.
They are there for sure, in the region of Coimbra.Quote:
Originally Posted by Simmi
Mytical stages of Arganil. Procar truck was here in Viana do Castelo too early this year. Btw, Arganil should be part of 2017 itinerary.
Agreed. Secret testing, decoy trucks, an actual drivers market.Quote:
Originally Posted by ToughMac
First video I've seen from the VW test. Still looks like the 2017 mule. But it looks like the rear lights are masked off and maybe a new exhaust position at the rear? Not sure. Should be some better ones later this afternoon.
https://www.facebook.com/DoidosporRa...0981907331919/
Traxx - WR is Free @Traxx_WiF
Images des essais de Sébastien Ogier avec la Polo 2017 en spec finale au Portugal
https://youtu.be/5x0qNOphNFc
Good set of pictures here for those with Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/Pickrally/p...09777622590817
The more you look at it the more you see the small but significant evolutions.
It's wider I think. Certainly if you follow the line back from the front arches it is wider and much more defined along the driver door. That will be where the impact absorbing foam goes. There was quite a big story about this in Motorsport News. Work has been done to help with side impacts.
Here's 1995 WRC champion Colin McRae testing the 555 Subaru Imprezza in 1995. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SROTaMSDVXY
Why post it here today ?
Because today is the anniversary of Colin's death and we have just reached page 555 of the WRC testing thread. (default display 10 messages per page)
R.I.P. Colin
Woah, great pics, big changes, especially to the rear wing, rear bumper and exhaust.Quote:
Originally Posted by Simmi
Yep, those doors and side panels are different; still the car overall width must be the same. Besides the new wing and the new bumpers, there’s also a redesigned bonnet, suggesting a different intercooler mounting.Quote:
Originally Posted by Simmi
With all these changes and so few news about the next Polo generation release, will the 2017 WRC car still be based on the current Mk5 model?
As far as I know, the new WRC Polo will be based on the next-generation Polo. It should be released next year, according to Auto Motor und Sport.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rally Power
Paddon with 2017 car
https://youtu.be/nTayAe7uQ2s
A big emphasis was made by the FIA/Promoter when these new regs were announced about the fact that if you painted all the current cars white, the man in the street wouldn't be able to recognise one from the other.
I have to admit it's not something that particularly bothers me. I've made peace with the fact we're not going to get the variation in segments we used to have - but in 2017 with the design trends we've seen, to me they are still going to all look pretty similar to the man in the street.
Cant blame anyone but the car manufacturers ... cars in this sector all look the same now. They all copy the boring Euro-style so they dont put anyone off their particular model.Quote:
Originally Posted by Simmi
No risks, no originality.
Even the Mk3 Focus RS looks dull.
Awww don't say that Eddie I've got one on order!Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
I definitely think when the Toyota broke cover it got a lot of people paying attention. Still more aero advances to come from all teams I think.
Not Ogier, Marcus Gronholm!Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
Sorry mate, still a great driver's car, but when I saw one in the metal I was so sooo disappointed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Simmi
I expected something exciting-looking after the Mk1 & Mk2 with their flared arches etc. But the Mk3 wouldn't get a second look.
My source says otherwise...Quote:
Originally Posted by Sardalense
VOLKSWAGEN WRC: Super photo of @SebOgier testing the 2017 @VolkswagenRally Polo WRC in Portugal 🇵🇹 📷 André Trigo https://t.co/GcOTEeyBmn
Have this been posted - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQYFZyri-ZE
That new Polo looks like old MG Metro 6r4. That was 30 years ago ;)
Somehow I like most Hyundai I20 outlooking at this point. Ok we have to think that we will see big changes before these cars are ready to start Monte Carlo 2017. Anyway direction is right. Rallying really need this new rules.
Sounds like VW have cooked something engine wise, massive hissss in this clip. To me hyundai is the most conservative, aero wise at least, as a Paddon fan I'm hoping they get creative and bring something new.Quote:
Originally Posted by stefanvv
Yeah it doesn't sound like "normal" anti-lag. Cars are still not final so we should wait for the homologated anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by Toyoda