74th PZM Rally Poland

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Originally Posted by Mirek

How many times in the last twenty years did a truck go on stage against the competitor? Maybe never until this weekend? If that's not a major safety fuck up what is?

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Never? Ha! 1987 Olympus WRC rally FIRST!!!! gravel stage Marku Alen meets a Toyota pickup fortunately at opposite ends of long straight....An old acquaintance of mine driving....
(he was Finish Control Captain..)
.BOTH zero cars driven by TV stars (who replaced the local guys who were close friends and who had spent months pre-running and checking the route, and who had plenty of gravel experience but who literally the morning of Day 1 were told they would be replaced---the one TV guy was Richard Dean Anderson aka "McGyver") which had BOTH stuff and rolled within 20m of each other.They had ZERO gravel and ZERO "competition driving experience...when they flipped and tore off radio antenna no word reached either Finish Control or StartControl..
20 minutes delay and rally organiser John Nagel orders Finish Control Captain to head BACK down stage to find out where missing 0 cars were but then somehow, Marku is started..
Total chaos....there is video of Marku at next service in Shelton, Washington in a rage..
The "Chief of Zero Cars" , a close friend Rod Johnson got a small fracture of the skull...for him no great danger.
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Following year if my 30 year old memory poor Marku in NZ WRC meets a car and caravan head on on a stage..

So technically you said 20 and these were 30, but it does happen and the real story is always worse..

In "Oh-limp-wrist" rally the story was hushed up...My Finish Control Captain shut up who he was and pretended to be a lost local becuase he knew it was a SERIOUS fuck up and reflect very badly (even if truthfully) on the Olympus Rally Committee.

welcome to Ford repair shop poland :rotflmao: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-nTZyQngYM

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Originally Posted by janvanvurpa

Following year if my 30 year old memory poor Marku in NZ WRC meets a car and caravan head on on a stage..

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Or the year before? I remember that it was on the Delta S4, in 1986.

Great story about Olympus!

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Originally Posted by NickRally

Football. Sadly this sport (for all sorts of reasons) is worse than even the Le Mans tragedy of 1955.

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The NFL is the states is responsible for a ton of brain related injuries. Most die several years after they retire, but live shortened lives due to cranial impact.

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Originally Posted by mknight

In Portugal Paddon got moved 16 places to start first. Cause the regroup was 1:15 long.

Another thing is that on some rallies for saturday WRC trophy drivers would start first (Argentina) while on Sardinia, Portugal and in Poland they only turn around 2017 cars.

Why is all this important? Cause for the most part we have quite close championship as well as individual rallies, so the small differences from running order can have quite large impact. Given that it's not very good how randomly they are set-up.

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Yes, a longer re-group will make possible to run rally2 cars ahead on PS.

About better retire and get +10 min at last stage... it's too big time loose. Will much better "be late on TC" at the morning and have nice road position. With 2min intervals theoretically you can gain 30 positions (10min penalty it's a 60min late on to TC), practically - 15 position (if late on TC >30min it's a retirement)
And Breen can play this game on Sunday. But it's a Pandora's box.

In Argentina it's only Gorban who in WRC-T, and he retire on SS4 so Sat and Sun it's only WRC17 cars.
In Sporting regulations WRC-T drivers should run as merged group after P1 WRC17 drivers and they didn't change from 01-01-2017

https://youtu.be/WyguJ--eT3c

Colin Clark's thoughts on Rally Poland:
https://www.facebook.com/voiceofrall...85065031656162

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Originally Posted by janvanvurpa

Never? Ha! 1987 Olympus WRC rally FIRST!!!! gravel stage Marku Alen meets a Toyota pickup fortunately at opposite ends of long straight....An old acquaintance of mine driving....
(he was Finish Control Captain..)
.BOTH zero cars driven by TV stars (who replaced the local guys who were close friends and who had spent months pre-running and checking the route, and who had plenty of gravel experience but who literally the morning of Day 1 were told they would be replaced---the one TV guy was Richard Dean Anderson aka "McGyver") which had BOTH stuff and rolled within 20m of each other.They had ZERO gravel and ZERO "competition driving experience...when they flipped and tore off radio antenna no word reached either Finish Control or StartControl..
20 minutes delay and rally organiser John Nagel orders Finish Control Captain to head BACK down stage to find out where missing 0 cars were but then somehow, Marku is started..
Total chaos....there is video of Marku at next service in Shelton, Washington in a rage..
The "Chief of Zero Cars" , a close friend Rod Johnson got a small fracture of the skull...for him no great danger.
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Following year if my 30 year old memory poor Marku in NZ WRC meets a car and caravan head on on a stage..

So technically you said 20 and these were 30, but it does happen and the real story is always worse..

In "Oh-limp-wrist" rally the story was hushed up...My Finish Control Captain shut up who he was and pretended to be a lost local becuase he knew it was a SERIOUS fuck up and reflect very badly (even if truthfully) on the Olympus Rally Committee.

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Thanks for this great story, had never before heard about this incident at Olympus Rally. Luckily nothing worse happened!

As we see here, things like in Poland can also happen in circuit racing in Germany :eek:: https://twitter.com/GirlsLikeRacing/...00143994634240 I´m pretty sure she would have died here :(.

Just... wow. Hard to say anything.