The Ferrari thread !

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Originally Posted by Bagwan

Sorry , couldn't help it .

And , I should mention that Ferrari asked for a bikini , but pasties were applied by Massa and Smedley .
Nobody liked the visual effect , as pasties offer no support , and the public became outraged immediately .

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Do you think anyone would believe me it's a f1 forum that drove me to googling what a pasty is? :laugh:

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Originally Posted by Bagwan

Team orders are like bikinis , required on this beach , to obscure what's really underneath .
Nobody gets too excited unless an errant nipple appears .

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:s ailor: :s ailor: and 1/2 :s ailor:

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Originally Posted by eu

Stop pornofying this thread :laugh: :p :

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Originally Posted by eu

Do you think anyone would believe me it's a f1 forum that drove me to googling what a pasty is? :laugh:

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It would depend on whether or not you were asking the question on the pasty forum .

And , with pasties , you ogle , not google

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Originally Posted by Tazio

:s ailor: :s ailor: and 1/2 :s ailor:

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Yarrrrrr .

Massa has no class.

To understand how a driver undertakes the interests of Ferrari he should read about the 1970 Austrian Grand Prix at Zeltweg where one of the classiest drivers, the great Lugano man Clay Regazzoni gave way to his teammate Belguim's Jacky Ickx.

It was done quietly and almost unnoticed by the Swiss as he was leading the grand prix.

And of anyone thinks back to Hockenheim, Massa around lap 21 TWICE chopped and fought Alonso to prevent the Spaniard from overtaking.

In addition, Massa was at his limit and was locking his tyres as well as almost losing the car once under pressre from Alonso.

Alonso then backed off for a while and Massa had almost 3 seconds in hand - Alonso then decided to reel the Brazilian number 2 in and it was over.

Massa is a little rabbit and is fighting to pretend that he is the equal of Alonso - he is not.

Alonso is gaining strength in the team and is coming into his own at Ferrari.

Massa will continue to clutch at straws but for Felipe the dream is over.

For the 2010 championship I think we will see Vettel and Alonso in the final fight.

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Originally Posted by Dave Brockman

It's one measure of quality, yes, but if it comes at the expense of blowing up your engine allocation in qualifying it's pretty meaningless. I'm not saying that this necessarily applies to Ferrari, but merely advising against taking one statistic in isolation.


There's a famous saying about statistics being like bikinis in that they can reveal a lot, but still leave the most useful and intersting parts obscured. :)

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At Ferrari at least, all the engines are not the same. They use certain engines for practice and certain engines depending on the track.

So they might even appear to use more engines out of the allocation than anyone else and at the start of the year they did have a problem that was rectified.

Ferrari know what they are doing, they have a driver in Alonso that is eager to fight and win.

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Originally Posted by henners88

I don't think anybody here truly believes that Massa is a better driver than Alonso.

Alonso is gaining strength within the Ferrari team but losing masses of respect around the paddock. His behaviour is confirming that he is a great driver but he is not a team player. He's temperamental, and shows that he can only drive for a team if the focus is purely around him. Mclaren sacked him because of this attitude, but Ferrari are known to accomodate this style, so I am not surprised he is fitting in well at Maranello. Good luck to him, and I hope next season Felipe drives for a decent team. :)

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I think everybody understands now why they bought Räikkönen out with that huge paycheck. Alonso is too insecure to have another WDC in the same team. It must be said though that he is an excellent driver although personally I hope he retires from every race :rolleyes: .

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Originally Posted by Saint Devote

At Ferrari at least, all the engines are not the same. They use certain engines for practice and certain engines depending on the track.

So they might even appear to use more engines out of the allocation than anyone else and at the start of the year they did have a problem that was rectified.

Ferrari know what they are doing, they have a driver in Alonso that is eager to fight and win.

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What, you mean they've had to submit more than one type of engine for homologation?

Or, perhaps what you mean is that Ferrari, like the rest, have a standard engine, which they use differently from duty cycles to other teams????

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Originally Posted by DexDexter

I think everybody understands now why they bought Räikkönen out with that huge paycheck. Alonso is too insecure to have another WDC in the same team. It must be said though that he is an excellent driver although personally I hope he retires from every race :rolleyes: .

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He is, and that's why for me it rankles so much that Ferrari clumsily fixed a race for him to win. I genuinely believe that in a straight fight he'd have passed Massa, and I'd like to believe that two men with such experience would not have collided in the process.

Alonso's right up there with the best on the grid, but he's a petulant whinging moaner who hates it when a team mate is a threat, throws his toys out of the pram far too readily, and is fast gaining a reputation for only being able to perform when he's the clear number one in his team.