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No you just wanted to minimise Loebs achievements as many times.Quote:
Originally Posted by stefanvv
No its not far.Loeb attacked at 2nd day,even he hadn t won any stage at 1st day.Ogier refused the fight even he had 2 days to show us how fast he is against the semiretired Loeb.Quote:
Originally Posted by stefanvv
But as many said,Loeb ruined the sport.
It may sound like that, but I only wanted to point out Ogier's achievments this year comparing to.... Loeb of course, who else ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
I don't agree. Loeb had 2 stage victories - SS8 & 9 (second loop of 2nd day, after Ogier hit that trouble in SS7). On SS8 Ogier had puncture 7 km before end, before that he was attacking and was leading him. After that he didn't fight anymore because no spares left for SS9, and almost 30 seconds realistically are impossible to gain against Loeb for less than 100 kms left of the Rally.Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
So tell us his achievements,because you confused me.Quote:
Originally Posted by stefanvv
I was reffering at 1st day,no stage wins,setup problems,not best tyre choice,too many driving errors as he said,but found the balls to attack with 17 sec difference.Quote:
Originally Posted by stefanvv
yes i know that Loeb as he found the right setup and right tyre choice with 2 spares into the car was faster 7 seconds at 3rd split(before handbrake blockage...) at stage 7 from Ogier with 1 spare tyre.Quote:
Originally Posted by stefanvv
So how you see Ogiers achievements?
Much better than Loebs last years, I don't know about his first, have to check.Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
Ogier had handbrake issues before the accident (and service). So who won SS7 after all? Ah yes, it was Ostberg, so Loeb was not in his best attack mode condition yet?!?Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
really? and with handbrake issues he won 5 stages,but when handbrake issues appeared again lost 7 seconds at 3rd split in one stage?Quote:
Originally Posted by stefanvv
yes he didn t won 7th stage.But thats not our conversation,our conversation is ''Ogier achievements against Loeb''as you said.Quote:
Originally Posted by stefanvv
now you compare last years.Before some posts...Quote:
Originally Posted by stefanvv
so decide what do you want to compare.Quote:
Originally Posted by stefanvv
Guys, continue your Loeb vs Ogier battle here: http://www.motorsportforums.com/wrc/...n-loeb-vs.html
I think I said enough. I'm not going to continue this discussion