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Originally Posted by Rallyper
Oh Japanese..Veeeeeeeeeeeeeeery quiet and worse, in all Asia, very hierarchical...very deferant... (read about co-pilots in Asian Airlines never speaking out when pilot is doing things wrong, and go to their death silently rather than screaming at the pilot..
It IS a problem.. Hell I was just in China again and talking about the top-to-bottom tendencies in all Asia and silence and obedience were so important..
Per, You can never say so clear no. Communication within the project is the thing which often plays a crucial role even if You have the best individuals involved. I've been working in automotive (stock cars though) for some six years but I haven't met a single project where I could say that everything was properly communicated. With various manufacturers and suppliers, with people from all over the globe, with all the means of modern communication every time there is a lot of problems which can be prevented or solved by proper communication.
There is even something similar to the driver's feedback in my daily work. Imagine that one of the most famous car manufacturer gives You a written specification that "the feeling shall be soft and dull". What the hell is that? How can You as an engineer design something what You can't measure in numbers? It's same with the setup. To find the common language between two worlds - between feelings and numbers, between driver's heads and computers. It's really a tough challenge which You can never consider automatically working.
On the other hand it's not always a good idea to go too much international. Some people simply don't go well with others and sometimes it has a lot to do with typical national mentalities. For example I don't think that it's a good idea to have a common Japanese-Chinese team.
Wow, that's a great noise from the new Yaris... :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
Makes you realise how important the sound of a rally car is to the spectacle and excitement. It's just as important, if not more so, than the cars appearance.
Hope sometime we can get this through to the TV people and let us have the option of a pure sound stream for fans that dont want/need a commentator talking non-stop.
No other team would allow what is happening in the gazzoo team, but the japanese have their own way when it comes to flop so we just wait....
I work with a lot of asians and boy is this a problem... I had a coworker who almost accepted being killed once just because he didn't dare speaking up when the other college (who was higher than him in rank) did something extremely idiotic that would have gotten them both killed if I hadn't intervened. The lower rank guy actually had a brain unlike the higher rank guy, but he didn't speak up due to their extreme hierarchical structures.Quote:
Originally Posted by janvanvurpa
Anything that means we don't have to listen to John Desborough!Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
Again, individualism is no problem whether or not they can speak loud and clear with each other or not.
Let´s face facts, those we know.
Tommi (and Hanninen) testing two newbuilt cars, after what I know one in Finland and one currently in Spain. At this stage of testing Tommi seems to do big part.
Why question that without big picture?
Like many of you guys say: let´s wait and see. Questioning this and that by now is not only stupid. It looks to me that there are more of you trying to be gods like N.O.T. whom even not him can tell the future.
I personally don't want to read only "whoah, that sounds good" posts. It's good to see people's opinions, experiences and feelings also because we can later go back to them and see who was the one to hit the nail. Some level of natural criticism is normal and healthy thing. Remember how hard Pentti was against the M-Sport spare wheel placement in Focus WRC/Fiesta S2000? Sadly he didn't live till the days when M-Sport abandoned the idea but he was obviously right that it was a blind alley.
Of course arrogant and rude one-liners is hardly a way to discuss stuff.
First was “it should be TMG”, then “Toyoda is naive” and “Finland isn’t handy”, a couple a weeks ago was “he’s not on schedule” now “Tommi’s too active” and “the team is too much international”, next it’ll probably be “he can’t pick drivers”…Jesus guys, give the man and his team a break and praise their hard work a bit more.
and then it will be "they only won because the guy in 2nd was slower"Quote:
Originally Posted by Rally Power