Would it be possible to squeeze in more than 2 stages on Friday/Saturday now without having to walk for miles?Quote:
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Would it be possible to squeeze in more than 2 stages on Friday/Saturday now without having to walk for miles?Quote:
Originally Posted by pantealex
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Should be, but not much is known about Nyckelvattnet. Considering trying to find someone who will ride a bike or moped through and film it since most of it is blocked I'm hearing. Need to check some entry roads because it might get full on P1 and 2. From what i remember the road by the finish is not very wide and why it's no parking there, you have to go slow when passing someone from what i can remember from using it as a shortcut to Svullrya. Parking by the start should be ok, you could also drive into the start of old Röjden just 200m across the lake.Quote:
Originally Posted by DocMS
Nyckelvattnet sounds and looks on the maps like a recipe for big spectator issues on the approaches, especially with the revised schedule, as you say pretty much the only area where you can get later is near the start.
I'll probably just pass and go only for one stage (one of the other 2), especially on Saturday.
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Originally Posted by Gregor-y
It's the promoters and FIA that chose the dates, not the organisers. They have said NUMEROUS times in media and interview that if it were their choice, the rally would be in january or at the absolute latest a week earlier than this year.
(That wouldn't have helped this year though, as practically ALL of Scandinavia has had warmer weather this winter than in many many years...)
Next year should be "normal" again with snow and ice.
We are going to Hof-Finnskog first and would love to squeeze in Nycelvattnet aswel but looking at google maps doesn't look like any access roads. And by going to start so late we would never get to walk the stage to viewing pointQuote:
Originally Posted by SubaruNorway
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It wouldn't have helped any year. There is absolutely nothing more safe with the weather/snow situation in January. February is the coldest month of the year and saying that they want the rally in January is just making excuses.Quote:
Originally Posted by Entertainer
What about starting order, Saturday based on reverse order of Friday results?Quote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
I think so.Quote:
Originally Posted by HaCo
Yeah, January usually has a warmer period that often ends up melting all/most of the snow. Would be more of a risk than February.Quote:
Originally Posted by BleAivano
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Forecast looks much better now :)
Wishful thinking.Quote:
Originally Posted by DocMS
There is only 4 stages instead of 8 stages per day. Which means you have fair amount of spectators more per stage (not double, but more anyway).
Last years have been so many cars attending that it will be quite tricky to get in and out of the parking areas.
You might succeed if you stand up very early to get closest parking spot on first stage you are going to visit. Otherwise you will just walk and walk to stage and back.
Let´s discuss after the rally how many stages each has done...
Friday and Saturday is same route, so try 2+1 Torsby in Friday and if that doesn´t work only 1 + 1 Torsby in Saturday.
Right.
I am not pushing, one in the morning and second in Torsby will be just fine.
Likenäs has even -12°C forecasted on the rally week Friday morning. That would make a good ice layer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tauri_J
Sorry, I´m not familiar at all with those stages. SubaruNorway sure is... ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by satukata
According to YLE Areena schedule, the televised stages are
Thursday
SS1 Karlstad
Friday
SS4 Nyckelvattnet 1
Saturday
SS6 Finnskogen 2
Sunday
SS17 Likenäs 1
SS18 Likenäs 2 (power stage)
There looks to be so little snow that you can walk anywhere in the forest, start looks like it goes up a bit but should be ok depending on if it's rain or a lot of snow coming on Sunday. I'll check some sneaky options if I go by this weekend 😉Quote:
Originally Posted by DocMS
I don't have something really special, just watch WRC+ onboards and find some fast places, no real jumps on the first twoQuote:
Originally Posted by Rallyper
https://www.rally-maps.com/Rally-Sweden-2020
Remote tyre change added for Friday and Saturday after Hof-Finnskog.
First time in Sweden. Based on the videos, could someone kindly tell what stage and respective coordinates / closer of spectator zone is?
Video 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-dRNYQpQog
Time:
- 0:24
- 0:28
- 1:05
- 1:16
Video 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNG-FJtxqhA
Time:
- 2:04
- 2:33
Mares testing
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EQKQa5jV...name=4096x4096
Well it will be very interesting to see what happens sunday evening/monday with forecasts now just around zero...
either tons of rain or tons of snow...one or two degrees can make a big difference.
Seems that organisers could be very lucky, monday after the rally shows +11 degrees.
yeah but the question is, how long they and FIA will continue to gamble with their luck?
every year basically the same story and them being very lucky with some kind of winter conditions just arriving for the rally time.
Where? The Scandinavian models show between -2 and +2 with snow.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tauri_J
Btw. average temperaturen this january has been 10 degrees! above normal.
Anyway there is a trend and to organizers a rally there needs to be some predict le conditions so if rally Sweden should stay a snow rally in the future it needs to react.
I keep looking at these forecasts every day
https://www.yr.no/place/Norway/Innla...ogen/long.html
https://www.yr.no/place/Sweden/V%C3%...%A4s/long.html
https://www.yr.no/place/Sweden/V%C3%...rsby/long.html
Likenäs has some sub -10 temps forecasted for Thursday-Saturday and Finnskogen area may have some snow instead of the rain on Sunday. Torsby doesn't look good, but I guess they can just run the short stage in any conditions. It's also run after two long stages, so the drivers will have worn most of their studs by that stage.
If Karlstad is the only place in Sweden that has the funding for the rally, then the WRC snow event has to go elsewhere. Somewhere were it's virtually guaranteed snow.
I see no problem (if they want to) finding sponsors at better suited places. However I do believe the problem is that organizing people live in the Karlstad area and might not want to move some 500-750 km... But it´s their living, so...Quote:
Originally Posted by AndyRAC
Windy.com, but it has now updated it to colder weatherQuote:
Originally Posted by mknight
Loving the back end of Latvala's Yaris WRC :vader:
made by a 3 years old child??Quote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
Don't know if it has been answered before, but anyway? Has it been announced why Latvalas normal codriver isn't doing the Swedish Rally with him?
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Do you guys know in which year(s) have we had the most snow in Rally Sweden? Just want to watch some great videos of cars between snowbanks on Youtube! :)
2018 was lots of snow. Most of snow - probably during the times the camcorder was not invented yet.
2006 looked pretty decent. Part 1/3: https://youtu.be/GTHi0f9DwM0Quote:
Originally Posted by flat_right
2003 and 2010 were also very nice:)Quote:
Originally Posted by flat_right
Miikka is co-driving for Eerik Pietarinen who can offer a better schedule for 2020 than JM.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sso
Yes, German championship...Quote:
Originally Posted by Essaj