Damn Ogier would've lost bags of time. Citroen team maybe pushing for the red flag when they saw Ogiers splits coming through LOL
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Damn Ogier would've lost bags of time. Citroen team maybe pushing for the red flag when they saw Ogiers splits coming through LOL
Ogier and Latvala must get same time as Evans, according to SS1 OR nobody gets time
* confused newbie * So, um, how do "nominal times" work?
its up tot he organisers.... but this is a travesty... Toyotas management should definately push for a time worthy of a puncture for Ogier !!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Morte66
That's what they are going to do imo, and it'll be a travesty giving Ogier Evan's time.Quote:
Originally Posted by TypeR
This is a joke, just as well cancel the rest of the season and give everybody nominal times...
It is in like the 3rd corner of the stage. So might be it had nothing to do with the puncture/retirement, or there was some damage that got worse.Quote:
Originally Posted by SubaruNorway
Latvala was almost on Meeke's pace, Ogier with Evans plus some seconds for the puncture. Meeke has to be leading the rally now otherwise it's incredibly unfair.
Clerk of the Course decides:Quote:
Originally Posted by Morte66
Art 39: When a special stage is interrupted or stopped for any reason, each crew affected will be allocated by the
clerk of the course a time which is judged the fairest.
WRC
(2/2) Red flag stopped the stage before @SebOgier & @JariMattiWRC could set a time. They'll both get notional times so the overall standings are provisional #WRC #Rallymexico
Was really nice that they confronted Budar with Latvala's starting position change and compared that with Ogier in Sweden.
As I said in Sweden when Ogier did it, I bet someone at FIA is already thinking about making a rule that forbids that. Could just change the rule they introduced for Sunday to be valid all weekend.
Phwoar, what a fucking mess of a rally.
i am very curious to see what times they will give.
http://forum-rallye.com/uploads/mont...552143637.jpeg
No, that's solely up to the COC decision (likely will be discussed with sporting stewards). There is no fixed rule for the notional times and there is often no fair solution.Quote:
Originally Posted by TypeR
is that really all it takes to red flag a stage now? a car off by the side of the road?
Is Charlie Whiting in charge?
Well, we should soon see decisions written down, arenīt we?
That and when they do that too. Until they do, there's little point on watching the fight at the top when you don't know what the situation is.Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
Why did they red flag the stage anyway?
Meeke and Evans had already gone through and it was only Ogier and Latvala left.
If you're gonna red flag it, do it after the WRC cars are through. 2nd gear corner and no real danger, worse cases of cars being stuck in Sweden ffs
We will, those will be posted on Notice Board.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rallyper
EDIT: Link: https://www.rallymexico.com/notice-boards/
Well this will be very interesting.....Quote:
Originally Posted by jonkka
Who is the CoC? A Mexican? - asking for NOT ;)
Yes, Jaime del PalacioQuote:
Originally Posted by er88
This rally is becoming a joke.
Haha I went to sauna and what a drama now.
At the moment they’re showing Ogier in 4th overall
when they have to give the times?Quote:
Originally Posted by jonkka
There is no set time limit. Luckily, I noticed that there's plenty of time before next stage so I am hoping to get the decision before then. Fingers crossed all the way up the arm pits.Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
If they are being fair I don't think they can possibly give Ogier a time faster than someone like Tanak or Neuville.
Ogier Is provisional 4th, +51 secs.Quote:
Originally Posted by er88
Ogier +1:12
Latvala + 3:00 why that?
they mean nothing... we must wait.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rallyper
ok six nations time now... enough with the mexican trash.
never thought i would say that but
Go Wales.
Presume they are the actual recorded times, as Latvala had to drive further under red flag..Quote:
Originally Posted by Rallyper
What do you guys think would be the "fairest" time loss they'll give Ogier compared with Meeke's time?
1 minute slower... you have to take the puncture into account as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by er88
If I will be giving notional times, I should give time of Meeke to Ogier. And for Latvala time of Sordo, same like for the rest of the field.
World Rally Championship
Verified account @OfficialWRC
18m18 minutes ago
�� ���� @RallyMexico SS10 ��
1️⃣ @KrisMeeke 17m44.9s
2️⃣ @ElfynEvans +12.1s
3️⃣ @OttTanak +19.1s
4️⃣ @ThierryNeuville +24.4s
5️⃣ @AMikkelsenRally +28.8s
Overall Standings
1️⃣ @KrisMeeke 1h36m39.8s
2️⃣ @ElfynEvans +5.8s
3️⃣ @OttTanak +35.1s
World Rally Championship
Verified account @OfficialWRC
18m18 minutes ago
(2/2) Red flag stopped the stage before @SebOgier & @JariMattiWRC could set a time. They'll both get notional times so the overall standings are provisional
His last competitive split was 3rd, where his time was -8,5s vs Meeke's -17,9s. Multiply that by the factor of stage remaining and you get predicted loss at the end. That doesn't take into account possible tactics (Ogier often makes most at the end of the stage) or conditions (was his puncture getting better or worse) but it's based on facts.Quote:
Originally Posted by er88
Thank you. I think, this minute, I am glad that I am not the clerk of the course.Quote:
Originally Posted by jonkka
I think there is two options:
1. Both Ogier and Latvala get Evans time (same as SS1), that helps Ogier.
2. The most "fair" they could do is to give Ogier time relative to Meeke based on split 4 (if he didn't get red flag just before) and Latvala after split 2.
That would mean Ogier looses 18s and is 3s ahead of Meeke
(Doesn't really matter how it benefits Latvala or not imo as he is in SR and a few tens of seconds don't matter)
That looks like a shot from a zombie movie.Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
It's either dangerous, or it isn't. They can't say they'll wait until after the WRC cars have passed just to keep the show on the road.Quote:
Originally Posted by er88
I think the most dangerous element was where the co-driver was stood... probably not an ideal spot and one a spectator wouldn't be allowed to stand in.
I'm pretty sure it was Meeke who flagged the official down after his brief interview with Colin Clarke after the end of the stage.