Yes, I think that 50 thousand is an average ERC event with good R5 car including some testing.
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Yes, I think that 50 thousand is an average ERC event with good R5 car including some testing.
That's not bad at all.. a lot of money to the average joe but that means one can run a full ERC programme in an R5 car with testing for less than 500,000 Euros, providing the calendar does not grow.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
Guys, what is this? Does Jolly Club still exist?
https://www.jollyclub.net/
I know Bisaha team was Jolly Club now, but never realize that they bought the make of historical italian team.
Could anyone give me a rough breakdown of all the costs that add up? Not that I'm thinking of entering an ERC event (unfortunately), it just interests me to see where the money gets spent.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
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It's not Bisaha's team. He was driving as a guest in Jolly Club. Bisaha's own team is CERS Performance.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andre Oliveira
Ah, sorry. Just heard that he wanted rent a portuguese R5 and who told me sent that team fb link.
Guys, did you see how Kalle Rovanpera got his driving license last week?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mtuCYaacac
He did recce in Latvia with Skoda...Quote:
Originally Posted by Sal the 2nd
ERC standings have just been updated on the official website, so all the champions can now look at them and enjoy their success while drinking champagne :)
https://www.fiaerc.com/standings/
Interesting to compare U27 and ERC3 where there are basically same top contenders but U27 counts less events. In U27 it's Ingram-Huttunen-Mareš, in ERC3 it's Ingram-Mareš-Huttunen.
So Ingram was the champion in both and in ERC3 for the second successive year. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
So a little season review from me:
I think ERC made real progress this year with quite full campaigns for a number of good drivers and the successful U28 and U27 championship concepts.
But overall the championship battle turned out a little disappointing, partly because of Lukyanuk's testing accident and partly his own mistakes on the stages.. However it is clear he has the pace to be at the front absolutely everywhere now. I hope he comes back next year and finally can reduce the errors and lift the title.
Bouffier could have had a chance too had he run more events and/or had he not been so slow on Canarias. Again I hope he returns and that Gemini will buy him a gravel kit.
It was great to see Magalhaes win his home event and ultimately complete a full campaign but unfortunately he was just too slow on the events he hadn't done for a while (or ever)
So taking all that into account, Kajto definitely deserved the title again. But if he comes back next year I hope the other guys give him a tougher workout!
I know ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Sal the 2nd
Sometimes a picture is worth a thousand words...
https://www.facebook.com/FiaEuropean...type=3&theater
It’s true that Bruno struggled in Poland, Czech and Latvia, but he wasn’t that slow on the others. Without the stupid mistake in Cyprus, it would be possible to put more pressure into Kajto and risk a bit more in Italy. Anyway, he did ok considering Kajto superior budget and experience. On Lukyanuk you’re totally right: he’s the fastest man around and deserves to get the title.Quote:
Originally Posted by RS
Do you deserve the title when you crash 4 out of your 6 starts? Nothing against Lukyanuk, he is fast and spectacular for sure. But that alone doesn't mean you deserve the title...Quote:
Originally Posted by Rally Power
About Lukyanuk - well he IS fast, he IS spectacular to watch, he has personality, thing that lacks nowadays among rally drivers, but crashes way too much. You can deserve chance or opportunity, but title deserves who has most points in end of season, that's how it works.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rally Power
I still secretly hoped that Bruno win title in Latvia. Kajto great, but he has experience, financial backing, semi-works team behind him, and Bruno is like local hero goes international (once again). It's kinda inspiring not only thinking about rally, but about life from some point of view, like David and Goliath...Maybe next year Bruno and Hugo will win, maybe next year...
Exactly. People seem to forget that famous racing quotation:Quote:
Originally Posted by dupanton
To finish first, first you have to finish.
-Juan Manuel Fangio
http://www.jujuyalmomento.com/upload...l_fangio_2.jpg
Chris Ingram interview:
https://www.carfinance247.co.uk/blog...content=111017
He says he'd love to carry on with Opel, but that's not going to happen unless they manage to homologate the Corsa is it?Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
No, that's not going to happen. I think he's just saying that as a another 'thank-you' to Opel for backing him the last two years and saying if they had an R5 he'd stay with them.Quote:
Originally Posted by RS
In terms of his options, I wonder if M-Sport would consider backing him with an R5 ERC entry ? They have won the BRC twice now and dont really have anything to prove there. Perhaps they could step into the ERC in 2018, especially with Ingram having the €100k to bring to them ...
M-Sport has nothing to prove in ERC either. They won the title with Kajetanowicz 3 times in a row.
Wasn't talking about any specific season, just saying that Lukyanuk name deserves to be on ERC champs roll; once he wasn’t able to get it on the previous years, I hope he’ll managed to do it in the future.Quote:
Originally Posted by dupanton
I prefer this one: “Driving fast on the track does not scare me. What scares me is when I drive on the highway and get passed by some idiot who thinks he is Fangio.”Quote:
Originally Posted by Jarek Z
That wasn"t an official M-Sport entry by the British team. Lotos got all the publicity with Kajto's titles.Quote:
Originally Posted by tommeke_B
How much is €100K going to get him? Being a young British driver can't be much fun, as there aren't the big money sponsors/ backers out there. Gotta wish him well though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
It shall be enough for 2 ERC events with a good car and a pre-event test.
As long as one or more Fiesta R5s are fighting for the title, and it doesn't cost M-Sport any money... For M-Sport it's probably better publicity if a privateer with their car can fight for the title, than when it's one of their own "works" cars... It means it is the car you can buy yourself, that's fighting for the win (be it Kajto or Lukyanuk or anyone else). With "works" cars you are never 100% sure (they should be the same but everyone knows they aren't). So I don't see any reason why M-Sport should invest in ERC. Maybe you want it to happen, but it's pointless.
Ingram already last autumn was testing Fiesta and looking for opportunity to drive it in 2017... so maybe now he will come back to this idea.
Ok so why have M-Sport had official entries in the WRC2 and BRC if they dont need to prove anything and could let privateers do the job for them ?Quote:
Originally Posted by tommeke_B
A British driver in their official car would be good for them at European level. Something they've never done as far as I know.
I thought the prize was for two drives in a Motorsport Italia Fabia R5? I suppose these things are open to negotiation..
Maybe Ingram could persuade Skoda UK to come back to rallying and back him?
It's a nice idea - but probably highly unlikely....though I hope I'm wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by RS
Ingram was just interviewed on Absolute Rally and stated:
He wants to stay with Opel and hopefully an R5 either next year, or 2019.
Many conversations taken place already - many people keen to support him
The ERC U17 prize use is open... not restricted to any make / team.
Is it still possible for a national importer to homologate an R5 as it was with the S2000?
NoQuote:
Originally Posted by RS
Yes. With manufacturer agreement.
Maybe Magalhaes wasn't slow, but he wasn't fast enough. He did circa 30 rallies in ERC and only won two - both in Portugal. You can't beat Kajto without winning rallies.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rally Power
In recent years Bruno ERC entries were rare and this year some events were even new to him, while Kajto has been running them for 3 seasons in a row. Despite it, Bruno won the same number of events and kept the fight open till the last round. If he manages to repeat the series next year, he’ll certainly be faster. Fingers crossed for him!Quote:
Originally Posted by Jarek Z
Guys, have you already bought Kajto's first book? The premiere was two days ago! ;)
http://www.empik.com/kajto-jade-po-s...E&gclsrc=aw.ds
https://s.znak.com.pl/files/covers/card/b3/T273649.jpg