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Originally Posted by noel157
Sorry to let you down and bring this forum into disrepute! I shall bring my ideas into line with yours immediately!
and we go again.....
But the first time Matton actually says they could hire a new driver for 2018. Before this we knew only that the three current guys have contracts for 2018 and that's it.Quote:
Originally Posted by mknight
So they brought in Mikkelsen to make sure what Kris was asking for is actually correct? The article is written in a bizarre way with weird twists. They added some interesting lines between the quotes... these journalists are having a field day with Citroen and I'm eating it all up :/
So, they're writing off 2017 to prepare for 2018.......... Marvellous....
Unless I'm much mistaken, they used 2016 to prepare for 2017; so they would hit the ground running. Yet, they turned up in Monte not ready.......
So maybe they'll write off 2018/9 to be ready for 2020 when new regulations will come into play (as the current regulations run for the 2017-2019 seasons). ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by AndyRAC
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Citoen will come back and crush the dummies in this forum trying to ridicule them.
I was just joking, but in all honesty I do truly hope that Citroën will be back to their winning ways asap, really, will be very nice to see 4 manufacturers fighting for wins during the season.Quote:
Originally Posted by olemann
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Hopefully not too successful, though. I was pretty tired of it by 2012...
Bo knows rally!
This.Quote:
Originally Posted by sonnybobiche
By the tone of your post, probably they'll get this management team...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JfUM5xHUY4MQuote:
Originally Posted by olemann
You are kidding, we have just the guys for the job here in England.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rally Power
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5Agcs1SC78E
p.s no need to click on the link if you value 13 minutes and 40 seconds of your life.
they need better team boss
Smart of VW to take back Capito in a role, and by that not risking the VW knowhow being spread.
But some engineers from VW seems like a good idea!
I do not know Matton, but maybe it is time for him to look elsewhere.
I would also form a wide test team, with drivers of different styles, to be sure the car responds well to set-up changes.
Actually, it took only 1m to see that those guys are perfect for the job. Do they speak French?Quote:
Originally Posted by Norm75
No, that is just a northern version of English :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Rally Power
http://media.groupe-psa.com/en/s%C3%...inkId=40208150
They're bringing Loeb in for a test.
Finally
Indeed (finally) but they will need to collaborate between the current drivers and Master Loeb to get the best out of that C3 WRC.
A desperate move, from a desperate team. All the flowery language and buzzwords ("dense and eclectic", " technical synergies") cannot hide it.Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
My thoughts exactly, as much of a legend he is, it does appear to be a bit of a clutching at straws move from Citroen. How long before we see him put back into a car on an event, Germany?Quote:
Originally Posted by RAS007
The car seemed to go quite well on asphalt, would it not be more useful to do a gravel test?
It's a bit strange they've felt the need to create this 'PSA Motorsport' concept to rationalise it. I know Loeb had no Citroen deal at all after they unceremoniously dumped him as they began to wind down their WTCC programme. Reports were he was pretty pissed at Citroen at the time.
Anyway my point is it seems a lot for just a WRC test. Have to wonder whether they will be an outing or two, especially as Citroen have publicly said this year is a write off ahead of 2018. Would be amazing but I doubt it.
the PSA Motorsport thing is nothing new, they announced this a couple of years ago. The point was to have a more cost efficient structure and run all motorsport programs from the same structure and facilities.
About bloody time Loeb had a go at the dismal car. Hopefully he can get some competitive entries too.
We know he can develop a car at least! We'll see what he can do :)
Best news in a while!
My thoughts exactly.Quote:
Originally Posted by rhm
The C3 WRC touring car is great on tarmac.. so why is Loeb doing a tarmac test.
https://www.worldrallyblog.com/2017/...just-test-now/
An interesting piece about Loeb's test.
http://www.autosport.com/news/report...ort-at-citroen
As if his confidence wasn't in a bad shape beforehand...
What kind of strategy is that from a team manager?
If he wants Meeke to do what Lefebrve and Mikkelsen did in Poland - toddle around and collect the minor pts he should say that. If he wants Meeke to push (perhaps beyond the limits of the car) he should give him the confidence to do that.
I hope Matton is just being guarded and has actually discussed some sort of plan with Meeke.
Think Meeke maybe also had a little dig at Andreas/ Lefebrve there too, but my making a point to say he's not there to just crawl around and collect the latter top 10 positions?
Anyway, he sounds pissed off going into Finland and that's the worst event on the calendar to go into with a muddled mind. Things are spiralling out of control at Citroen. Next two events are huge for Matton, Meeke and Andreas you feel, as Germany will give an indication of Meeke vs Mikkelsen and who can get nearer to limits of the car, while getting a good result.
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Totally f ucked up. There's really no other way to describe this. Meeke is the sacrificial lamb; Matton is a f ucking coward who should be taking responsibility for this disaster.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eli
Both Matton and Meeke come out really bad here:Quote:
Originally Posted by Eli
Matton
First he says Meeke should bring info for development... then he says he should finish on podium. Seems like he basically gave up on any real instructions. While you can understand where it comes from (after Corsica he told Meeke he should go for wins => 2 crashes, then before Sardinia he said he should try to finish => crash), it's not exactly a good trait for a manager. Not knowing how to instruct your main driver and sending mixed signals.
Meek
Just some humility would be in place. After crashing in every single rally of the season except Corsica nothing needed to be changed and they show lack of confidence in him?
The comment about coming in top 10 is imo more directed at Mikkelsen in Sardinia. So lets turn that around, Citroen has no chance to get good WDC or WMC result this year, which result was better for Citroen in the longer term? Meeke wrecking that car after 2 stages, or Mikkelsen with feedback based on many stage kms that immediately got acted upon?
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All in all they should have sat together and talked trough it properly, possibly get Meeke some mental trainer or w/e, instead it seems they just both kept for themselves and nothing really changed.
http://www.wrc.com/en/wrc/news/july-...5--12-12-.html
Matton says Loeb won't do a competitive rally
I think it's safe to say Loeb returning to competition is out of the question.
Just like Mikkelsens' drive was a one off?? I wouldn't be surprised at all if we see him competing on at least one rally by the end of the year.
I wouldn't be surprised if Loeb would be back to do gravel testing, or maybe a local event, but I'm not expecting him to do an actual WRC rallyQuote:
Originally Posted by Arwel Davies
I find it very difficult for Loeb to return to Wrc now. He isn't that young anymore. At 43 years old nobody has been competitive on the top level the last 20 years (except Matador...). Maybe a local French event may happen. A Wrc round can be pretty much excluded.
He is still competing on local events with a 306 Maxi and DS3 WRC so it wouldn't be that big a thing if he did one such event in a C3. But to the WRC? I don't think so.