And that is the difference between WRC level of driving and "Ladycup".
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And that is the difference between WRC level of driving and "Ladycup".
17.9 s? So the difference is not very high..
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Originally Posted by JAM
I dont' agree. If you see the fastest times of the rally are mainly S2000 Skodas and Peugeots. The Mini for me is one step behind for now, maybe due to the weight as Dani appointed but i'm sure that without a driver like Dani driving the Mini the winner would be in a different car.
For me this rally showed that works Skodas mainly are still faster than the Mini at least. Not enough stages to compare with Fiesta RRC unfortunately.
Must say I agree with NOT and Jordib, when we compare T 1600 and NA engines.
Now it only remains to adjust the R4 regulations.
Then this b.classe could be really interesting.
I didn't know that years ago, in the WRC era, some drivers used to take notes also for the road sections in Corsica. Basso also should for the next year.
I don't think that would have been the case if Basso had stayed in. My feeling is that they 1.6Ts are at least on a par with the S2000s, guess we will learn more on the other events which Basso does.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jordib
I still much prefer watching the S2000 cars, especially on the onboards, so not looking forward to R5 in that respect.
Completely sure that Sordo could go faster if needed.
I think we should wait until the Mini has been on more high speed tarmac events and gravel conditions before we come to conclusions. Also be good if Dani could keep going in IRC. It has taken him so long to win anything outright!Quote:
Originally Posted by JAM
Sordo WRC level, yes, Mikkelsen also it's more and more prooved. Basso was in pair so you downgrade too much this series.Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
For s2000 cars mikkelsen, Basso, hanninen and some more from the IRC are top....in a WRC car and level of competition is a different story...and usually not a successful one.Quote:
Originally Posted by amilk
See the results for Al attyiah, tanak for example and Neuville...
IRC is a very good base with some great talent, but in order to be WRC level you have to evolve from the IRC driving.
Ola Flřene (Mikkelsen's co driver) said somewhere that he would be 300 days away from home this year, in addition to all IRC rounds and testing they do 5-6 rounds in WRC and recce on most others.Quote:
Originally Posted by tommeke_B
i refered to tanak and al attyaih because they faced hanninen in PWRC with good results...Quote:
Originally Posted by tommeke_B
Calling IRC ladycup is as offensive as claiming that IRC is equal to WRC... wording it is where we differ...it is called sense of humor.
For me main problem for the step up from top-class (IRC) to world-class (WRC) is the different character of the rallyes....roughly said IRC is a tarmac cup, WRC is a gravel cup, in this respect I think Neuvilles performance is very good, and it is just a matter of time until he can fight for podiums...
back to topic:
Andi Aigner is very happy with his first outing in the Impreza, he said he was never pushing at all, just adjusted his speed to his main-rivals (other production cars, his order was clearly to win this class, not more or less), and used the event to try different setups and learn the cars performance...
IRC: Korsika-Rallye - 2012 - Rallye - motorline.cc
Teamboss Manfred Stohl was also very pleased with the result, next rallye for Aigner will be Ypres...
The Mini is at the same level as Skodas and Peugeot's. Now we need to confirme this in a gravel event.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jordib
Sordo is a top WRC-level driver, but was in a car almost new to him and with some km of tests in a demanding event as this, and facing competition from drivers that know theis cars (Basso was exception) and know the roads very well, having made the rally last year.
The Fiesta RRC also show good speed.
New for him? Get real, he has done thousands of kilometers in Mini. The S2000 variant differs only in engine performance and less aerodynamic grip. Also Sordo did Corsica more times than IRC drivers before 2012 (Kopecký 4x, Basso 1x 11 years a go, Mikkelsen 3x), Sordo did Corsica 5x. Also Sordo is No.2 world driver on asphalt and if the car was on pair with other cars he would have to win quite easy. That's not my feeling from the event although the early problems for Basso and Mikkelsen didn't get so much comparison. And there is one point. The Mini S2000 is way more expensive to run that 207 or Fabia S2000.Quote:
Originally Posted by JAM
If somebody missed it (like me)
IRC Rally Tour de Corse 2012 - SS10 Live - YouTube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UK_B_HoNZWU
To have done Corsica by the last time 4 years ago, is not the same as doing it last year. But ok...Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
The Mini S2000 is not exactly the same as the WRC. Is not a question of changing a wing and reducing power. There's a lot work to be done. But ok.
The future will show how things will be.
By the way and talking about the RRC prices. More than 500.000 Euros by a Fiesta RRC?!?!!? The Mini must be at the same level... this people are being completely crazy!
I meant running cost. From what I heard from people having their own 207, Fabia and Mini it's a big difference.Quote:
Originally Posted by JAM
I was refering about aquisition cost, that's the only info that i have.
I consider this situation a madness. They forbid the homologation of new cars at costing 400k Euros, replacing by ones that cost more than 500k. Anda, as you said, with bigger running costs.
my pictures from Corse
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WRC1
no holky? :(Quote:
Originally Posted by WRC1
What is the plate of Mattei's Skoda?
the question must be: What WAS the plate of Mattei´s Skoda? ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Andre Oliveira
Ok ok...What WAS the plate of Mattei's car BEFORE the fire? :confused:
Sordo on Corsica: MaxRally | News | Sordo: The IRC is great but one win will do
He doesn't want to do more IRC because he wants to keep his 100% win record ;)
just watch how small is the damage at Mikkelsens car from the telegraph pole.
http://16vrt.free.fr/tdc12/0003C.jpg
what a photo!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
Autosport : IRC - Tour de Corse (IRC)
magic photos....
Autosport : IRC - Tour de Corse (IRC)
Autosport : IRC - Tour de Corse (IRC)
I am finding it hard to get photos of Dani's Mini. Does anyone know where I can get some high quality images???
What is "high quality image" for you? For which purposes do you need it?
Not media purposes. Just like them better than the small images.