And with a 4 year old SkodaQuote:
Originally Posted by Rallyper
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And with a 4 year old SkodaQuote:
Originally Posted by Rallyper
I was having a look at the testing video. I cannot quite pick quite what it is about the Mini front end. In one clip the front suspension looked amazing, does it need to be really amazing to be competitive ? It is the steering, anti-rollbars ?, something with the shock absorber compression, front wheel castor angle? How does the front wheel travel and A arm geometry compare to Fiesta ?
With the longer wheel base the car's outside back wheels might end up in the (Fiesta/DS 3) gravel sweepings on twisty gravel road corners.
Hopefully the anti roll bars are nothing like the later Impreza WRC ones..
+1
I also agree. I think the Kris could become the face of WRC like McRae (but its a big maybe). He is going to get a lot of exposure through the Dirt 3 game as he has his Peugeot featured (and maybe the Mini), which I hope will mean more fans for the WRC. I'm sure he will pull in solid results as Prodrive and BMW have both proven track records for making powerful and often reliable racing carsQuote:
Originally Posted by HaCo
Perhaps Prodrive could get a sample of these http://www.turnermotorsport.com/c-13...-bar-kits.aspx to try in the mini swrc. Certainly a better use of US steel than how it is being put to use in some parts of the world.
Looks very much like a Subaru spoiler, is this the one they will homologate?Quote:
Originally Posted by Barreis
But when the donorcar is not very good looking, it is hard to get the rallycar to look tough and sporty!
I wish Mini&Prodrive&Meeke&Sordo all the best!! Thank god we''ll have the third manufacturer in the WRC!!
But, given the circumtances with huge amount of experience with top-rallying by Citroën and M-Sport, it is realistic to say, if Meeke or Sordo will have this year yust one top-three finish, this will count same as a victory for them.
In terms of speed by my opinion Meeke has no chance against Sordo on dry tarmac. Obviously some of you forget very fast the fact, that Sordo was the one and only for the last three-four seasons, who was able to chalenge Loeb for the tarmac victory. And don't give me crap about how was Xsara or C4 much better on tarmac as Focus....We all know that Ford guys were (are) simply slower !!
Story can be much different on the gravel, but still do not understimate Sordo.....
And looking back for some years-all newcomers (Suzuki, Škoda, Hyundai, Seat) for the last ten years had no chance against the established teams as Subaru, Peugeot, Mitsubishi...So, they can be a kind of surprise in terms of speed; I wish them; but something is telling me this won't happen.....
Diddnt the C4 have a very clever centre diff that made the car very quick on tarmac? Something that the focus was lacking!Quote:
Originally Posted by Ucci
They (Sordo and Loeb) are two sealed surface experts, should be interesting to see howSordo fares in the mini on asphalt!
NO, but thank you for sharing your imaginary visions with us....Quote:
Originally Posted by tfp
“Mini closes on final specification for World Rally Car”
http://www.maxrally.com/news/entry/m...rld_rally_car/
Er, ok, must have read something wrong then!Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
I like only what you say here, the rest of your text? we wil see what happens in 2012!Quote:
Originally Posted by Ucci
Citroen!? They were participating in WRC with a kit car before 2001 but their first official appearance in top category is in 2001 and didn't start full campagin til 2003, so they are the newcomers who had quite a lot of success against Subaru, Peugeot, Mitsubishi.... :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Ucci
Minus Peugeot who successfully jumped in a 2000 full season against the Mitsibishi, Subaru and Ford establishment.
Speed has always been obvious for the very first outing of each of the serious newcomers : Focus, 206, Xsara, C4, Fiesta, DS3 ...
the fiesta, c4,xsara, ds3 are not newcomers...
In case you missed something in my post, i was refering to the very first official WRC rally of each cars quoted and as such they were/are newcomers.Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
again they are not newcomers...the manufacturers had experience of the wrc before launching those cars...
Stop messing with my tropical vocabulary you. :s tare:
Experience or not, jumping from a Xasra Kit car to a WRC, launching a brand new Focus/C4 WRC car or swapping 2l to 1.6l is always a new beginning = newcomers, if you allow me please, thank you.
Back to Mini topic. As said, all those new cars mentioned above showed immediate speed. Sordo in a DS3 would be 6th speedwise in Sardinia (without attrition) with a handful of 3rd-5th best times on stages and we don't know yet Meeke's pace. This is about where the Mini cursor is. Clean tarmac rallies will also tell where they are.
no they are not...sorry.
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Originally Posted by N.O.T
Aman re NOT,aston na ehi alli gnomi.Den enohli kanenan!!!
@ NOT : Thank you for your courtesy.
Mini tests for Portugal, engine problems for Araujo : http://www.rallydeportugal.pt/en/ral...-portugal?bl=1
First long onboard of Mini.
Onboard Araujo Mini S2000 Portugal tests
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1YFHl2gkOc
Does someone know which size of restrictor do they use?
The same as the WRC car.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
http://iris.cpidt.pt/projectos/sport...otos/22685.JPG
Photo by Pedro Contente @ Sportmotores.com
is it sure that JAM?Quote:
Originally Posted by JAM
Yes.Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
The smaller restrictor is only to the regional rallyes, on the WRC rallyes the restrictor is the same
The car looks very funny!! Like one of those cars in a cartoon film!
thanks mate!Quote:
Originally Posted by JAM
so they have same power as WRC?Quote:
Originally Posted by JAM
Yup!
According to Armindo Araujo, the only diferences of this car to the WRC one, is the rear wing, the rear windows (glass on the SP version, and peliglass in the WRC) and my guess the front bumper (because according to FIA it must be different from the SP one)
Are the Minis then in class 1 only because they have the S2000 aero package?
Thanks, so it's as I thought. That's good for us because Portugal will give us quite real image of Mini WRC speed.Quote:
Originally Posted by JAM
How Mirek?With Araujo against factories?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
Not against factories but there will be a lot of others. Of course I understand Your remark but it will still be much more useful to see it like this than with small restrictor.
Holy ****, Disney should sponsor the team, they have Mickey Mouse on the central console... :) )Quote:
Originally Posted by Karukera
Yeah! I was thinking the same - A big MM head on the dashboard.... :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Donney
Tomorrow I´ll leave for Lisboa and the rally!!! Can´t wait... See you maits!
Drives better than it looks..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1YFHl2gkOc
Since i am an expert at judging performance by video only (predicted both that the ford is slower than the citroen and the new wrcs slower than the old) i say that this car will not go far....looks more like an s2000 when accelerating out of the corners...entry speed is ok. Of course the driver is an important factor and armindo is pretty average for WRC standards...but we will see.
Very nice on board camera though....you can even see the feet of the drivers hope they use it for their official cars as well.