Adapta Motorsport confirms Ford Fiesta RS WRC for 2011: http://www.m-sport.co.uk/index.php/n...s-wrc-for-2011
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Adapta Motorsport confirms Ford Fiesta RS WRC for 2011: http://www.m-sport.co.uk/index.php/n...s-wrc-for-2011
Mads Østberg vs Andreas Mikkelsen
A little off topic, but I would like to know
which one do you rank as a faster driver. :eek:
Edit:
Okey this shoud be in the Adapta thred.
Sorry for beeing blind.
What a creativity! A lot of colours and always the same boring stripes. :\
can't they do it any better? And please stop posting the same Fiesta. Wait for the official livery...
@ Roy.It is not the official livery, but a fantasy of Jean-Charles.
A lot of the exposure of the sponsor get wasted by the stripes. Can't you create a more colourful livery? Al Qassimi has a nice one on his MERc Fiesta S2000. Ad some BP and Castrol to it :)
I hope that Mads keeps the orange livery of his Fiesta S2000. Mads and Henning could form Team Orange :) , with 2 diffferent sponsors ( Coca Cola and Expert)
It will look like your national team :D
Which makes it an other reason to cheer for Mads and Henning.
Hup Mads, je kan het!
Hup Henning, mijn kampioen! :)
I hope Kuipers gets his financing ok and gets those WRC-starts next year :)
I'm actually curious to know how popular rallying is in Netherlands? At least there's some drivers driving some races in international level. Kuipers, Abbring and Merkenstejn's? In rallymedia.nl videos in youtube there's quite nice amount of spectators in the stages. Nice tarmac roads too, very similar to Ypres Rally.
Would be nice to see a Dutch-man in WRC-level.
rally is alive and kicking in The Netherlands, with lot of WRCars, but most are hobbiest. Most of the rally stages are .. too soft, not demanding enough like in WRC or IRC. The step from national to international is quite big.
Some now and then big talents rise up, like Peter Bijvelds and now Hans Weijs and Kevin Abring, who can challange for the real top given the time and equipement. Kuipers is good, but Weijs and Abbring are better :) .
What I remember from rallies in Netherlands is the Tulip rally, which was won by Timo Mäkinen in 1964 and, by Rauno Aaltonen in 1966. But that’s a while ago.
This's really honest when we compare it with some comments from Finns..Quote:
Originally Posted by alleskids
If you mean mine comment that one wasn’t to be a in any way to underestimate the changes of drivers from the Netherlands. I just said that what I remember from rallies from Netherlands in the way of the old good times. I’m not been following European rallies so closely and therefore I don’t know so much what is happening.Quote:
Originally Posted by Barreis
I was once on a training course held by a guy from Netherlands and I’ve also once trained a guy from Netherlands that was visiting the company in which I was working in that time. Both very nice guys and I got very well along with them.
Sorry if I offend someone.
Don't worry.. Tomi and few other are radicals.. :D
Rallying and racing is too much under restrictions from local goverments, enviroment activities, local citizens who are against motorsport. It is hard to get permisisons for an event. Plus good rallyroads are hard to find, Other countries have the "luck"" to have exciting roads were drivers can realy learn to control their car. Finland is among the countries has that privilage, which translates in many really good rally drivers.
Yeah, but your comment was really honest and if you think that way-realistic.. :)
thanks :) . I want to have Dutch rallydrivers dominating WRC, like the Fins and the French, but for the time being Nederland has to settle for top 20, and an occacionally point scoring, thanks to driving in high tech WRCars, and other drivers having trouble.
hi guys i'm new to this site. I notice you lot do talk rubbish sometimes. Anyawy.... I heard the fiesta did about 800km this week at kielder forrest with mikko and jari.
ps. If you lot were wondering why it was slow at kames(Go kart track), it was a engineer doing the driving not matt. They were just putting miles on the engine. All the other drivers were at greystoke testing the focus before GB Rally.
Yeah.. There are a few people like that, but not many, so you learn who to ignore pretty quickly. :D Welcome to the forum, and thanks for the info!Quote:
Originally Posted by jim84
Thanks for this info. Here's a few photos from the test, right jim84?Quote:
Originally Posted by jim84
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-..._6060316_n.jpg
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-..._1346225_n.jpg
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-..._6011725_n.jpg
Great photos. The Fiesta looks mean
Only sometimes ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by jim84
Don't like it..
Do you mean the Citroën fans here? :s mokin:Quote:
Originally Posted by jim84
Two good comments in your first post. Not a bad start. Let’s see how the “experts” will comment about the engineer cruising around in the Fiesta WRC. Welcome jim84.Quote:
Originally Posted by jim84
is the engineer driving here as well ??
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=deGFA0L4tjI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfwtjQGIdo8
i really hope the car is fast and every finnish and british person feels proud of their drivers and cars... the happier europeans are the more money they send over here.
The car LOOKS slow...maybe its the video maybe, its the cat of Mr. Wilson that drives, maybe they do it on purpose, maybe they have a bad hair day during test...but the car looks slow.
compared to this...it looks slow
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z29UAZx-Dnw
i dont think its looking slow...also hardly compareable those videos. one is on dry surface, one wet. what i must say is that the citroen sounds more agressive.
I too agree with you NOT. But sadly some people seem to want to find excuses as to why one video looks faster rather than just saying that the DS3 looks faster which it does.Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
Yeah it is slow because you are not trying to compare with this... http://dai.ly/amzuRuQuote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
From all this 1.6T WRC's when great Gronholm drove mini WRC it was looking fastest to me (today saw road version-ugly like ****)..
How many roads in the WRC are that wide? Answer? Almost none.....Quote:
Originally Posted by Bobcat
Seriously, lets just get the embarassment for Ford supporters out of the way now and say that Ford will be bridesmaids again :)
This comment is foolish. I don't say you are, but your comment ;) .You watch to much F1 and other boring 'round and round' racing on wide roads.Quote:
Originally Posted by Daniel
Many stages are narrow. Nice to hear Ford doing well in tests. Now no more tears or nonsense about the tests.
The test on tarmac was slow, but now it is clear why it was slow.
Did you watch the video? The road was wide enough to land a plane on it...... they should be testing on proper roads like the ones they're going to be rallying on, not ones that are autobahn's by comparison.....Quote:
Originally Posted by Roy
i think i'm right you guys do talk rubbish. Comparing speeds on video is nonsence, they're on totally different roads. maybe we'll have a better idea when ford test in portugal next week.
And some they are wide too. Do they test on a small road it is not good, do they test on a small road it isn't good either. Ford test the car every where like Citroen does. But some have to lived behind this forum and yell about everything that is not Citroen. There are here some sick dogs. :\Quote:
Originally Posted by Daniel
And I see in February if WRC are more competitive than last year. I hope on more fast cars and drivers and many winners. If not... I have a life.
The Citroens always seem faster on video's because the are louder. If you took a clip from Latvala and one from Loeb on the same part of a stage in Rally GB, Loeb would seem faster. Perception of speed also comes from sounds, measure the distance they travel on a road in a set time and they would be split by the hair on a fly's arse!
Lets wait until Sweden and then make judgement. All those bashing Ford may well just be eating their words. Even the Mini seems quicker than the Fiesta on videos, but nobody can tell me that it would actually beat it on stage coming straight out of the box, compared to Fords years of development?
:up:Quote:
Originally Posted by Doon
Spot on :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Doon
Honestly I can give the lads right that say the Citroen looks to be faster. But that´s not a big case now, is it?
Because none of us can tell.
So - let´s wait and see. The best is that they hopefully are equal, so there´s gonna be competition during 2011. That would be good for next year, wouldn´t it?
Next year there will be no more live timing in WRC. From now on there will be 3 "independent experts" sitting in the wrc officials room and they will measure the speed shown in video. Rally results will be published after all of the videos have been evaluated ...Quote:
Originally Posted by Doon
Seriously