What will the Solberg Brothers do in 09 ?

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13th January 2009, 15:06
Xsara Fan

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Originally Posted by skarderud

why not? petter is a better driver than sordo on snow and gravel, and they are quite equal on tarmac. sordo NEVER going to be a world champ.
he hate snow, didnt understand why last rally norway, and he dont have the pace on gravel. with that attidude he wont go all the way.

Petter never drive Citroen C4 WRC. New car = new problems for Solberg.
13th January 2009, 15:14
skarderud

hopefully not, but with 100 km testing or so, he going to drive that car better than the s14 :)
13th January 2009, 15:17
Xsara Fan

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Originally Posted by skarderud

hopefully not, but with 100 km testing or so, he going to drive that car better than the s14 :)

Let`s hope...
13th January 2009, 15:33
Gard

Give Petter a competitive car and they can do what they want with the second seat. I believe Petter has something to prove on tarmac and should possibly only have the second seat at RN(if in a C4). But for now, this is just speculation.
13th January 2009, 15:34
JFL

Mikkelsen tested C4, Focus, and Subaru almost at the same time, and in his mind the C4 was a lot better then the rest.. He did'nt need much time to get on Loeb's pace (At least on the testtrack)
13th January 2009, 15:37
Xsara Fan

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Originally Posted by JFL

Mikkelsen tested C4, Focus, and Subaru almost at the same time, and in his mind the C4 was a lot better then the rest.. He did'nt need much time to get on Loeb's pace (At least on the testtrack)

The main words are "At least on the testtrack" ;)
13th January 2009, 15:39
JFL

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Originally Posted by Xsara Fan

The main words are "At least on the testtrack" ;)

Be positive! I'm 110% sure Petter can handle it!
13th January 2009, 15:43
MJW

Quote:

Originally Posted by JFL

Mikkelsen tested C4, Focus, and Subaru almost at the same time, and in his mind the C4 was a lot better then the rest.. He did'nt need much time to get on Loeb's pace (At least on the testtrack)

Mikkelsen said that after testing the C4 his admiration for the Ford guys went up a lot, as the C4 was a better car.
13th January 2009, 15:43
Xsara Fan

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Originally Posted by JFL

Be positive! I'm 110% sure Petter can handle it!

Let`s hope, let`s see... For me - I like to see more Citroen`s :)
13th January 2009, 17:08
Tom206wrc

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Originally Posted by JFL

Mikkelsen tested C4, Focus, and Subaru almost at the same time, and in his mind the C4 was a lot better then the rest.. He did'nt need much time to get on Loeb's pace (At least on the testtrack)

Sarrazin had a test on gravel track with the C4(while Loeb was testing the 908)...and was quickly very fast too(according some people attending the event)... ;)
13th January 2009, 17:09
Sulland

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Originally Posted by JFL

Mikkelsen tested C4, Focus, and Subaru almost at the same time, and in his mind the C4 was a lot better then the rest.. He did'nt need much time to get on Loeb's pace (At least on the testtrack)

Pity that Mikkelsen could not find the budget for WRC this year, he is a huge talent. But lets see what he can do in P-WRC - and he is for sure going to have a seat for 2010 !!!
13th January 2009, 17:14
Tomi

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Originally Posted by Sulland

Pity that Mikkelsen could not find the budget for WRC this year, he is a huge talent. But lets see what he can do in P-WRC - and he is for sure going to have a seat for 2010 !!!

I think its good t see him in PWRC, might give a hint if he is a bird or a fish, and with theese guys he fight for a possible works seat.
13th January 2009, 17:56
JFL

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13th January 2009, 17:56
tolis

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Originally Posted by Sulland

Pity that Mikkelsen could not find the budget for WRC this year, he is a huge talent. But lets see what he can do in P-WRC - and he is for sure going to have a seat for 2010 !!!

You, the Norwegians have many talents!!!
Bravo!!!!
Here in Greece there are no talents and no rally drivers interested in contesting in PWRC or JWRC.... :( :( :( :( :(
13th January 2009, 18:24
pettersolberg29

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Originally Posted by JFL

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I'm not sure if people are just ignoring this, but it seems positive that Petter will get something done. Both Ford and Citroen are mentioned so that must be the delay in deciding which one to go for.
13th January 2009, 18:45
Psycho!

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Originally Posted by pettersolberg29

I'm not sure if people are just ignoring this, but it seems positive that Petter will get something done. Both Ford and Citroen are mentioned so that must be the delay in deciding which one to go for.

...and of course we will have to wait... :rolleyes: This "race" between Ford and Citroen is actually very positive for Petter,'cause the two teams will have to maka better suggestions in order to gain his signature.Not to mention the moral part of the story... ;)
13th January 2009, 19:54
Iskald

The Solberg effect

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Originally Posted by tolis11

You, the Norwegians have many talents!!!
Bravo!!!!
Here in Greece there are no talents and no rally drivers interested in contesting in PWRC or JWRC.... :( :( :( :( :(

Norway was actually nowhere in rallying when the Solberg brothers came into the sport in 96-97. Finland has always been oceans ahead of us, and our neigbours Sweden was looked upon as big brother. Certainly we have passed the swedes now, and possibly we can gain on Finland (Tomi and you other finns, I know you will be protesting this...!). Anyway we have had what we call the Solberg effect. New talents dare to think that they could have a chance if they try. Of course Mikkelsen and Østberg has been blessed with rich fathers, but believe you me - they are not only spoiled kids, but very talented too. Other young guns steadily pops up these days; Brynildsen, Bieltvedt, Kjær and more will come. We have a "youth class", allowing drivers to start with rallying from the age of 16, before they can take their licence for road-driving. In the midst of the financial crisis we started up a new Subaru Cup last saturday, with no less than 19 spanking new Impreza Sti N14s on the start line. It doesn`t look too bad, actually...
13th January 2009, 19:59
noel157

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Originally Posted by Psycho!

...and of course we will have to wait... :rolleyes: This "race" between Ford and Citroen is actually very positive for Petter,'cause the two teams will have to maka better suggestions in order to gain his signature.Not to mention the moral part of the story... ;)

It could well be the other way around, perhaps Petter needs to make better suggestions to get a seat, or get the right kind of seat. I'm confident he'll be in something.
13th January 2009, 20:11
tolis

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Originally Posted by Iskald

Norway was actually nowhere in rallying when the Solberg brothers came into the sport in 96-97. Finland has always been oceans ahead of us, and our neigbours Sweden was looked upon as big brother. Certainly we have passed the swedes now, and possibly we can gain on Finland (Tomi and you other finns, I know you will be protesting this...!). Anyway we have had what we call the Solberg effect. New talents dare to think that they could have a chance if they try. Of course Mikkelsen and Østberg has been blessed with rich fathers, but believe you me - they are not only spoiled kids, but very talented too. Other young guns steadily pops up these days; Brynildsen, Bieltvedt, Kjær and more will come. We have a "youth class", allowing drivers to start with rallying from the age of 16, before they can take their licence for road-driving. In the midst of the financial crisis we started up a new Subaru Cup last saturday, with no less than 19 spanking new Impreza Sti N14s on the start line. It doesn`t look too bad, actually...

Ι am really jealous....
what's your opinion(if you have) about greek rallying?
Very bad, unfortunately :( :( :(
13th January 2009, 20:26
Glee

500 posts!

It is for sure an interesting subject....
13th January 2009, 20:30
Tomi

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Originally Posted by Iskald

(Tomi and you other finns, I know you will be protesting this...!).

Off course im not protesting, everything is possible, but now rally in Norway is a 1 man show, the whole rally Norway organisation seem to crawl in front of Petter, from outside it looks amusing.
The main thing is what comes after Petter finishes his carreer, not so many good driving years left for him, the interest for rally might collapse if there is nobody to continiue. Also i dont get carried away too easy when it comes to new talents, from a new talent who can drive to top 6 there it's still a million things that can go wrong before he becomes a works driver.
13th January 2009, 20:35
MJW

Over 500 pages about what Petter will be driving in 2009 - If Malcolm Wilson or Olivier Quensel are reading this they will at least know that the driver they have if their car will have charisma and an generator of interest, "Hollywood" will brighten up the WRC with his celebrations when the wins come,
13th January 2009, 20:36
pettersolberg29

Over 500 pages would be impressive ;)
13th January 2009, 20:44
MJW

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Originally Posted by pettersolberg29

Over 500 pages would be impressive ;)

sorry posts
13th January 2009, 20:47
pettersolberg29

But your point is a good one. Just think what it would do for soemone like Citroen if they ran Petter in Norway. The Norwegian market for Citroens would quadruple in 3 days!
13th January 2009, 21:38
Gard

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Originally Posted by pettersolberg29

But your point is a good one. Just think what it would do for soemone like Citroen if they ran Petter in Norway. The Norwegian market for Citroens would quadruple in 3 days!

Yeah, and that would be about the number of cars sold in any car dealer in UK or other big nations in europe :(
13th January 2009, 21:44
BDunnell

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Originally Posted by pettersolberg29

But your point is a good one. Just think what it would do for soemone like Citroen if they ran Petter in Norway. The Norwegian market for Citroens would quadruple in 3 days!

At the moment, I doubt it would have any effect.
13th January 2009, 21:48
JFL

Before Petter signed a conract with SWRT, Subaru was next to nothing in Norway! Citroen is'nt that big at the moment, and I'm sure they would profit from it! Not only in Norway! Seems like he is a bigger star in other countries!
13th January 2009, 21:57
A.F.F.

I just wanted to say hi to Petter himself in case he is reading this thread :wave:
13th January 2009, 22:47
Sulland

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iskald

Norway was actually nowhere in rallying when the Solberg brothers came into the sport in 96-97. Finland has always been oceans ahead of us, and our neigbours Sweden was looked upon as big brother. Certainly we have passed the swedes now, and possibly we can gain on Finland (Tomi and you other finns, I know you will be protesting this...!). Anyway we have had what we call the Solberg effect. New talents dare to think that they could have a chance if they try. Of course Mikkelsen and Østberg has been blessed with rich fathers, but believe you me - they are not only spoiled kids, but very talented too. Other young guns steadily pops up these days; Brynildsen, Bieltvedt, Kjær and more will come. We have a "youth class", allowing drivers to start with rallying from the age of 16, before they can take their licence for road-driving. In the midst of the financial crisis we started up a new Subaru Cup last saturday, with no less than 19 spanking new Impreza Sti N14s on the start line. It doesn`t look too bad, actually...

Yes, and the armada of young talent can in my opinion be traced directly back to Petter and Henning - what we are calling the "Solberg Effect"
Same as we see in other sport: Top athletes makes more people want to start, and then talent will come, and will have a path to walk in from their predecessors ! Let hope it continues !!!
13th January 2009, 22:57
Barreis

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Originally Posted by Gard

He can enter with his s9 I believe and change later

No active diffs for P.Solberg..
14th January 2009, 06:17
Gard

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Originally Posted by Barreis

No active diffs for P.Solberg..

you're probably right.
14th January 2009, 06:45
Helstar

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Originally Posted by Sulland

Do you have inside info for this ?

Come on you know it's true. Onboards video don't lie ... also Subaru mechanics often complained that Petter was messing too much with those buttons while driving. In service they always had to put things in "shape" again (well, we can argue if "good" or anyway "bad" shape as they don't listen to driver requests lol).

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Originally Posted by skarderud

Petter and Dani are quite equal on tarmac

Wrong. Sordo is better.

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Originally Posted by JFL

Mikkelsen tested C4, Focus, and Subaru almost at the same time, and in his mind the C4 was a lot better then the rest.. He did'nt need much time to get on Loeb's pace (At least on the testtrack)

Well, finally we have an official confirm of what I'm saying since Monte 2008 ^^

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Originally Posted by MJW

"Hollywood" will brighten up the WRC with his celebrations when the wins come

Oh rly ? And when ?! In another life ? I hope for him he gets a competitive car in 2010 at least ...
14th January 2009, 07:26
Tumbo

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Originally Posted by Helstar

Wrong. Sordo is better.

Just curious to know how many tarmac rallies Sordo has won compared to Solberg? Also note the subaru has been a dog on tarmac for yrs (they got left behind on the development train in 1999 and in moving to the 4 door chasis lost what they made up with the p2000) so we aren't comparing like with like anyway
14th January 2009, 08:18
Gard

Well.. it looks like PSRT has purchased C4's
14th January 2009, 08:29
Xsara Fan

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Originally Posted by Gard

Well.. it looks like PSRT has purchased C4's

Plz more info!!!!!!!
14th January 2009, 08:35
Tom206wrc

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gard

Well.. it looks like PSRT has purchased C4's

Several ???? :eek:
14th January 2009, 08:41
Helstar

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Originally Posted by Tumbo

Just curious to know how many tarmac rallies Sordo has won compared to Solberg? Also note the subaru has been a dog on tarmac for yrs (they got left behind on the development train in 1999 and in moving to the 4 door chasis lost what they made up with the p2000) so we aren't comparing like with like anyway

Without Loeb he could have some tarmac wins already and you know it ... sure, the C4 (07-08) and the active Xsara (back in 2006) were a lot more competitive compared to Subaru, but from what I've seen in Monte 2008 the skill is surely there, Citroen had to stop him with a "broken" engine you figure :p !
Petter is behind, it's not a question of the car, he often loses to Atko and look back in 2005, he was sometimes losing on tarmac to Gigi too - and they both had Pirelli tyres but Gigi was driving a crappy Lancer (the Impreza wasn't that bad in '05). And they aren't exactly the best ever on asphalt.
14th January 2009, 08:42
Gard

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Originally Posted by Tom206wrc

Several ???? :eek:

really don't know anything yet. It may be only one for RN.
14th January 2009, 08:43
Daniel

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Originally Posted by Helstar

Without Loeb he could have some tarmac wins already and you know it ... sure, the C4 and the active Xsara back in 2006 were a lot more competitive compared to Subie, but from what I've seen in Monte 2008 the skill is surely there, Citroen had to stop him with a broken engine :p !
Petter is behind, it's not a question of the car, he often loses to Atko and look back in 2005, he was sometimes losing on tarmac to Gigi too - and they both had Pirelli tyres but Gigi was driving a crappy Lancer (the Impreza wasn't that bad in '05). And they aren't exactly the best ever on asphalt.

You're wasting your time :) People are looking for hope and clutching at every little bit of hope they can. If Petter is going to do well in rallies it will be on the gravel ones.

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