my fault! maybe it is an italian media thing!!Quote:
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my fault! maybe it is an italian media thing!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Franky
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Originally Posted by AnttiL
totally agree till 2016.
not sure about '17 specs. seen it live, exactly same place, same drivers, totally different behavior. to me, it looks like new wrcs allow to mantain corner speed even sliding, but its just a spectator impression.
I've seen it before in Italian media as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by wyler
If I had to name one name of being visibly guilty of that, it's Mikkelsen. Particularly in the i20. I don't know if that's his natural style or he's doing it to adapt to the car (though I imagine the former, having been watching some 2016 Polo '17 test videos lately), but on the last two Rally GBs I've seen him on (not so much in Finland), you could trust him to be more sideways and spectacular than even silliest bloke in a Mk2 Escort. Great entertainment, but couldn't be the quickest way round.Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
EDIT: Just to add, I've always thought that the '17 WRC regs should have been called 'WRC+', as there's such a difference between the pre and post 2017 cars. If nothing else, it'd have helped differentiate the two in 2017, and would probably be useful again in future if/when the 2017 cars are entered in national rallies. They're a substantially different class, so could do with something other than the cumbersome '2017' tag.
I agree there should be some way to distinguish the three generations of WRC, but making up your own is not the way to go.Quote:
Originally Posted by the sniper
Remember, there were also the 2.0 WRC's before 2011 and they don't have a separate class name either.
TBH it's not much of an issue (and probably wont be in the future) as hardly any privateers have or will be able afford to run a '2017 Car'.
If its a World Rally Championship event it will be the latest spec car, if its a National event a 'WRC Car' will be 99% a 2016 or earlier.
https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/pirel...s-test-livery/
Mikkelsen got the Pirelli test job with the Citroen
Nice livery ! Will be good to see the C3 WRC running again.Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
question:
knowing the average level of the c3 in comparison to the others, is this a good chioce for test and development of the new tires?
If everyone is on the same tyre, does it really matter?Quote:
Originally Posted by wyler
You don’t need an outright speed / performance tyre
It will still do the job. It's not that far from the other cars in performance after all, it's not like they would be using an R5 car or an old generation WRC car. Remember, this car still won rallies last year.
Colin Clark @voiceofrally
It doesn’t have to be competitive - just consistent with a comparable level of performance.
It wasn't a bad car by any means, at least in certain conditions. The only issue which made it uncompetitive was how tough it was to drive and wring out the most from it.Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
All the other candidates had a big issue or two associated with them:Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
Meeke - the way he was kicked from Citroen for "being a danger to himself and others" as they put it, probably made Citroen say no. C3 development also didn't come out as positive for him.
Latvala -only drove Toyota and is still pretty much associated with them (promised free drive after Sweden, likely to buy himself one or two each year)
Paddon - only drove Hyundai in competition, still very much associated with them on NZ and maybe most imporant...lives in NZ, any kind of travel from there is not to be relied on at the moment.
Were they actually candidates or was that just a media assumption? Mikkelsen was working with Pirelli already last year.
https://www.autohebdo.fr/wrc/actuali...er-213695.html
Mikkelsen is hoping to be the best choice after Sebastien Ogier quits at Toyota. He is planning on showing his skills in the 2021 season. One option is the Sainteloc C3 WRC but he's not confident about its performance with the team not developingn it. He has the same concerns about the performance of the Fiesta, thus he's looking at Toyota and Hyundai for one-off rallies.
He might take Ogier's empty seat in 2022 but he wont 'replace Ogier' for Toyota when they already have Evans and Rövanpera.
He won´t even get that seat in Toyota, I reccon.
If not Solberg, it´ll be someone else but Mikkelsen...
Breen ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Rallyper
Will Tänak and Neuville be also on the market for 2022?
There will be a lot of drivers on the market if Hyundai´s WRC era is coming to an end.Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
He must be living in some different zone.. There are maaany drivers who would get the seat before him..
Why would Toyota or anyone else give him a seat, if he wouldn't be in top3's speed or even top5 today..
He was in top 3 in his second last WRC rally, 4th and 3rd in the 3 rallies before that again. So dunno what you on about.Quote:
Originally Posted by TypeR
He was obviously gambling on getting the seat at Toyota in case Ogier retired at the end of this year. Now that Ogier stays for one more year it's bad indeed for Mikkelsen as other "new" drivers might become more interesting.
At the same time Evans has confirmed that "anyone" of the established drivers can be fast in the Toyota. (only Toyota driver without podium is Katsuta, even Hanninen got one).
Getting a seat at a new manu team would be more realistic, but doesn't look like any new manu is coming. Anyway he is still only 30.
Examples of the "new" drivers are indeed Solberg, Loubet or even Huttunen. Breen has to show real speed on tarmac and above all consistency which is even below Mikkelsen standard. They drove 5 WRC rallies in same cars (2x i20 and 3x C3), Mikkelsen was faster in all except the first one.
https://www.fiaerc.com/83152/
Mikkelsen starts ERC Hungary with a Skoda on Pirellis
Interesting to see how the compares with the ERC guys. He must win to maintain his image as 'ready for a WRC return'.
Hard to tell when he is on different tyres.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
For example Lukyanuk and Solberg use Pirellis. I suppose he can't use new models in competition...Quote:
Originally Posted by denkimi
https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/mikke...l-2020-events/
Mikkelsen going for a Skoda for Ypres and Citroen C3 WRC for Monza
Not sure yet...Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
Pirelli-liveried C3 WRC sounds more like another 'promo car' than a serious way of showing his pace.
Mikkelsen won ERC Rally Hungary on his 'comeback'.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EmTwnwWX...jpg&name=small
He says he is unbeaten this year :)
I think Mikkelsen's task with this rally was to show, that he is better than anyone from ERC and he did that job well. From some point of view, it is a bit taking part of high-school sport event, but you still need to be good enough to beat them.
Still, the rally itself will probably make Monza look a bit Mickey Mouse ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by meh
It was really nice to see Ola Floene so happy he was back together with Andreas and winning.
Nice onboard from them: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vH_5Dm2iaN0
2:45 and they are having fun in the car, thats a really good sign :)Quote:
Originally Posted by RS
Yeah, I noticed that too :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Lead
Here is the next episode of Mikkelsen's "My Life" series - this episode is about all the preparations for Rally Hungary. He seems very happy.
The next episode should be out on Monday.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iP2AqVLbUgY
Here it is - Rally Hungary in the eyes of Andreas Mikkelsen:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRvOv2Z1kvQ
Mikkelsen confirmed for Canarias in ERC and working on Monza:
https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/will-...r-rally-monza/
M-Sport could do with the kind of help he is hinting at with their Fiesta R5, although I suppose it's more likely he continues in a Skoda.
Why would MSport want to promote R5 ?Quote:
Originally Posted by RS
They have had Rally2 for months now
Even Mikkelsen can´t fight for win with Fiesta R5, stop dreaming, car is way too slow.