George Zimmerman verdict just in . . .

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Originally Posted by Dave B

Fortunately in the UK Neighbourhood Watch consists of old folk peeping round their net curtains and tutting a lot.

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Is also a question posted on online house insurance applications which can aid in reducing the cost of your premiums....

....should therefore be seen as a positive

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Originally Posted by schmenke

Before Zimmerman approached him, Martin was doing nothing illegal.

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Exactly where, in all the testimony, did it come out that Zimmerman approached Martin?

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Originally Posted by Ranger

I don't have any problem with the right to defend yourself.

But then again, I still struggle to comprehend how Zimmerman got no conviction, while Marissa Alexander got 20 years in jail... go figure.

Fla. woman Marissa Alexander gets 20 years for "warning shot": Did she stand her ground? - Crimesider - CBS News

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Did you actually read the report?

Look past the feminist outrage.

She left the room to retrieve a gun and shot at a man who was not physically threatening her.....All this with her children in the room.

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Originally Posted by Daniel

and you know what Tony, I don't actually disagree with you, once that happened and Zimmerman feared for his life, then he was justified in doing what he did...... but did the situation that happened really need to happen? Until that point Zimmerman had been the aggressor and you could argue that Martin was merely making use of the stand your ground law as he quite possibly feared for his life.

If you think about it, the law created a situation whereby both people were quite entitled to do what they did and with predictable results.

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You forget one important issue. Martin was TRESPASSING! Stand your ground doesn't apply when committing a crime.

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Originally Posted by Dave B

Fortunately in the UK Neighbourhood Watch consists of old folk peeping round their net curtains and tutting a lot, not "standing their ground" by following unarmed teenagers about tooled up. And yet it's arguably more effective if you compare the crime rates of our respective countries.

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A higher crime rate is one the downsides of not living in a police state like the UK where you can be arrested for just having an opinion.

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Originally Posted by anthonyvop

A higher crime rate is one the downsides of not living in a police state like the UK where you can be arrested for just having an opinion.

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Personally I'd rather live in a country like yours where goats are free to go around eating children.

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Originally Posted by schmenke

Before Zimmerman approached him, Martin was doing nothing illegal.

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Try again........He was trespassing.

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Originally Posted by anthonyvop

You forget one important issue. Martin was TRESPASSING! Stand your ground doesn't apply when committing a crime.

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Trespassing? He was staying in the same community?

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Originally Posted by keysersoze

Vhatever has continually provided cogent, well-written comments on this thread and you repeatedly fail to make any substantive responses.

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Again, that would be a matter of opinion.

For my sake, please show me the "cogent" arguments.

For the life of me all I see is you vwhatever, Don Juan or whatever his name is and the always dramatic comments from Tonyprop with the 'driving his head into the pavement'.

Suddenly, the obvious raises it's head. You turn it into a political matter rather than a crime.

You had this guy acquitted before there was even a trial.

Another person killed as a result of violence through the use of a gun. A person who could not even get into a police department.

Then the dramatic statements of self defense and the 'driving his head into the pavement' giving the impression of a seething megalomaniac

rather than a 17 year old kid.

Someone posted images of what is deemed the injuries received by Zimmerman as he feared for his life. If his head was being 'pounded' into the

pavement he would have presented with contusions causing a severe (marked quantity of blood) loss of blood due to the lacerations he would

inevitably have had. Was there any subdural hematoma reported? Any concussion?

It's akin to kristallnacht where it mattered nothing about who you were but what you were.

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Originally Posted by Daniel

Trespassing? He was staying in the same community?

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He was trespassing on other people's property.