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As far as I am aware Philips produce mini/microsystems. These are not hi-fi. It does not take much to have sound quality as 'good' as a mini/microsystem. For the same cost a separates system will outperform most if not all mini/microsystems.Quote:
Originally Posted by CaptainRaiden
Don't know about you, but with the exact same speakers, I heard a marked difference in sound quality with a Xonar. This is especially even more apparent at higher volume, as the output is sharper, clearer and much less distorted.Quote:
Originally Posted by schmenke
Like I have said before in this thread, I am not an audiophile and don't claim to know all the technicalities that go with it. Hell, I didn't even buy the sound card to listen to music. But both with headphones and speakers, I have definitely heard a big difference in the audio quality with a discrete sound card. And I'm talking right after installation, and then switching between the two through the playback devices option.
Or maybe the onboard sound on my mobo was mega crap to begin with. That's unlikely though as it's pretty new gen.
Well then, IMO Apple's retail prices are ridiculous.Quote:
Originally Posted by schmenke
Like I said, the processing algorithms decode a digital audio file into discrete channels, which the soundcard then amplifies and routes to the speakers.Quote:
Originally Posted by CaptainRaiden
It’s how (i.e. to what level) the soundcard amplifies each channel that makes the difference in what you’re hearing. The soundcard may also adjust and optimize the volume of a range of sounds which will affect what you hear (the combination of range/volume is adjusted via equalizer controls, if the soundcard, or supporting software, is equipped).
So yes, a soundcard will provide better quality audio, but it’s not necessarily the microprocessor that actually provides this.
(sorry, I did say I wouldn't hijack this thread... :uhoh: )
I still don't think some people are getting it.
Most Apple users could probably care less what if anything Apple invented. The same applies for most Android phone users, regardless of brand. Some pages back Captain Raiden posted a link about audio quality, and my Droid Razr was a top 4 pick. Do you care? I certainly don't.... I've never hooks earbuds up to my phone and probably never will any time soon.
If I took the attitude of some on the forum, I should tell everyone what a bad decision they made on their phones because mine has better audio quality and was cheap too. But that would be pointless and juvenile, because I don't really care what any other user buys as long as they are happy with the decision.
Like I said pages ago, Apple invented internet haters, out on a mission to hate.
I'm pretty sure they didn't invent haters either. It's always fashionable to hate people, teams, companies or whatever that are doing well :p :. Add their a little cockiness and you'll have them ripping their clothes in fury :laugh: .
People have REALLY got to start looking at what context the link was posted. Long story short: I replied to henners, Pino then replied to me, and then I replied to pino. I didn't post the link about audio quality just out of the blue. WTF? Go back, read, and then maybe you'll understand.Quote:
Originally Posted by airshifter
About criticizing Apple. Again, let's say I don't like how Peugeot design their cars or their business model, so I criticize the company. By doing that, I am NOT criticizing their customers. They can buy whatever they like, it's a free world. Where have I said in any of these threads that buying Apple products is a bad decision and you shouldn't do so? I wonder why people take it so personally.
And do you actually believe there's no reason for that "hate"? Are you so self-assured that Apple does absolutely nothing wrong and the haters are just out there on the troll highway?Quote:
Originally Posted by airshifter
A few pages ago henners posted that people who can't afford Apple products are the ones who hate Apple to make themselves feel better about it. That's a very naive and, pardon my language, stuck-up way of looking at it. I have seen people with 3 cars in their garage and full blown racing setups in their villas "hating" Apple products.
There is no other tech company that gets the same type of stick as Apple does, not even the small Chinese companies which make dodgy gadgets. The internet is full of communities and communities with these "haters" or "trolls" as you like to call them. What do you think? This is a hobby? That people just wake up, switch on their PCs and phones and just start spewing hate for no reason? Or is it a libel campaign by other manufacturers, as Steve Jobs liked to think?
Why do premium brands in automobiles like Ferrari, Lamborghini, Mercedes or Aston Martin not get the same amount of stick as Apple do? (I'm sure they do, but not to the global extent that Apple does.)
You have to understand a really simple distinction, which for some reason so many are mind-bogglingly incapable of grasping.
I can't afford a Ferrari or any of the aforementioned luxury cars, but do I dream of or desire them? Yes!
I can afford Apple products. Do I desire them? NO.
Do I not agree with their business model or understand how ridiculous their rates are? YES!
Am I allowed to post opinions about it on a discussion forum? Hell yes!
It's not a bit more, it's a lot more. But then again, have I ever told anybody on this forum that they shouldn't have bought their Apple products or that it's a bad investment? I'm merely sharing better alternatives. And sometimes a little inevitable slandering of Apple happens. I know you own a couple of Apple products, henners. Have I told you even once that you made a bad purchase?Quote:
Originally Posted by henners88
Problem is people take the criticism directed towards Apple, personally, like somehow it's directed towards their own personal choices, when it's not. And this happens when they really have no answer to why Apple charge $800 more for inferior hardware. If people get this sensitive, then that is not really my problem.
Again, like I said, the circle. Trainers are manufactured by separate brands using maybe similar material, but pressed, sown, designed, manufactured using their own technology.Quote:
Originally Posted by henners88
Apple, as we know, sources similar hardware as PC, and put their OS (the superiority of which is subjective and not really proven to be any better), and are sold at almost 1.5 to 2 times the price. I don't agree with that, but I have come to not really give a flying rat's ass if people do.
ANYWHOO this I'm afraid will go in circles again, beating around the same bush with same tiring arguments with both parties. Henners, I'm sure you've got your hands full with better things to do, congrats again btw, and I too have to finish all my work before Saturday for a well deserved vacation. This is a useless distraction. So, I guess it's in better interest of everybody to let Apple and Samsung make their billions and for us to keep working like dogs and keep buying their products with our hard earned money. :p Enough from me on this topic, seriously this time!
The production of most trainers is outsourced to companies that again produce shoes for a wide variety of brands. They want you to think that they are technology intensive, however there is little differentiation between the rival products. However there has been widespread 'hate' (as you put it) for brands like Nike because some of their suppliers were found guilty in the past of using child labour.Quote:
Originally Posted by CaptainRaiden
What is interesting about the 'hate' against Apple is that the company doesn't really vary from the industry norm when it comes to ethics, political affiliations, environmental friendliness or any other marker of corporate behaviour. Its method of doing business sadly is little different IMO from other tech companies that have found themselves in such a position of dominance in a particular market, compare its use of iTunes for iPhone/iPod use with Microsoft's use of internet explorer back in the day. Yet Apple gets more criticism than probably all the other brands put together.
I could understand the criticism if Apple flattened rainforests for their factories, used child or prison labour, donated money to extreme political groups etc etc but they haven't any more or less than their rivals.
So if its not corporate behaviour that gets Apple this criticism it must be the product.
If it is the product that gets people so riled up that they spend time on forums attacking the company then all I can say is, get a life. Life is too short for this rubbish. Don't like it, don't buy it.
BTW you may not criticise Apple buyers directly but your extended argument has long been that Apple gets away with a high markup because their customers are ignorant and gullible. By extension Apple product owners are ignorant and gullible. Its this passive/aggressive rubbish of yours that people are pointing out.