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What's the real story about ISC and North One?! Nobody know.
It's complicated, as ISC still exists as a company......Quote:
Originally Posted by Barreis
Like in relationships: it's complicated... :D
Off the stages too, with GpA and GpN, you were able to easily repair bodywork and cheaply by using the same road car parts.Quote:
Originally Posted by tfp
Look at how it is with Impreza, Focus, Fiesta etc WRC or S2000 cars.
The body panels have to come from the manufacturer works team at a high cost and special delivery to where you are in the world. Total nonsense and this is the main reason why bodykitting from the standard road car bodywork has to stop in rallying.
First I have to say "I am happy with all the news for WRC 2012".
Yet we must not forget that we do not know what happened with the economy for other important things in the WRC!
Here I think about the organizers of the rallies, will they get everything ready financially?
Many companies and politicians have currently other things in their heads than to use the money to be a sponsor for the sport.
No one knows what awaits us off in 2012 and later with the world economy and Europe!
We will see what will happen and hopefully we will not get into trouble themselves privately.
You are right! I am worried that Ford & Mini will not be able to afford their programs for the reason you just mentioned (the cars are looking pretty bereft of sponsorship).Quote:
Originally Posted by Brother John
I would have to think that any rally driver dependent on sponsorship would be pretty concerned about a double dip recession in the coming months.
In these financial times – one of the first things to go is sponsorship/ marketing – and companies that still have sponsorship want maximum bang for their buck. Is the WRC/ Rallying delivering this? It’s far easier to put it into circuit racing....
I’m interested what the new Ford deal is – is it more money?, Are they having more than a say in the running of the team?
And what about the organizers of the rallies? We saw in the IRC this year already several rallies disappear.Quote:
Originally Posted by AndyRAC
With my work I see also many festivals that will disappear next year. :confused:
http://www.motorsportforums.com/wrc/...tml#post994390
As we see, and some forum members finally beginning to understand the future of WRC rallies.
It does not look good and it will definitely not improve.
Two + two semi-factory rally teams will run the WRC 2012. Where does it end?
Could it perhaps be that WRC with its roots in Europe and its core fanbase in Europe is facing an extra tough challenge in a time where we will have a recession or maybe even a depression in Europe over maybe the next 5-10 years? (ref. to latest report from UBS).Quote:
Originally Posted by Brother John
Below is a comparision between WRC, F1 and MotoGP regarding the expansion of where it has had its venues over the last 10 years.
In the year 2000 Formula 1 had 11 out of 17 races in Europe = 65%
In 2012 Formula 1 will have 8 out of 20 races in Europe = 40%
In the year 2014 Formula 1 is expected to have 5 out of 20 races in Europe = 25%
In the year 2002 MotoGP had 10 out of 16 races in Europe = 63%
In 2012 MotoGP will have 12 out of 18 races in Europe = 67%
In the year 2000 WRC had 10 out of 14 rallies in Europe = 71%
In 2012 WRC will have 9 out of 13 rallies in Europe = 69%
As you can see from the numbers above then F1 has reacted to the way the world economy is going and where the manufacturers want to sell cars - and where sponsors want their exposure.
MotoGP looks at the moment as the World Championship that struggles the most with only 12 factury bikes next year. In 2010 Yamaha won all 3 titles and yet they couldn't even attract a single sponsor for the 2011 season. Talk about having a crisis in the sport. Some people in sport jokes that's it's no longer a World championship but a "4 country cup" between Italy, Spain, USA and Australia.
WRC and MotoGP are both struggeling massively with sponsors and TV rights. The exposure is less every year and when I look at the 4 venues that WRC have chose outside Europe one has to wonder why there isn't a rally in China, in Brazil, in Russia or in India. These are the countries where manufacturers want their exposure and where new sponsors could be intruduced to the sport.