60k is double what Ft Lauderdale is going to get ...
Plus the cash flows sideways ....
We've seen the Baltimore mess ... Can the series really survive another fiasco?
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60k is double what Ft Lauderdale is going to get ...
Plus the cash flows sideways ....
We've seen the Baltimore mess ... Can the series really survive another fiasco?
I love oval racing, especially on the flat 1mile tracks, but Milwaukee, New Hampshire and LasVegas were anyhing less of a fiasco? We don't know how much those three races lost, but I can guarantee they did. There were more people in attendance in Baltimore than all three ovals combined. Baltimore lost money due to poor management, not a lack of attendees or local suport. Everyone is so willing to give New Hampshire, Milwaukee, and Las Vegas chance after chance after chance. Why???? Haven't all three tracks PROVEN there is no Indycar fan base at any of them. None of the three has EVER pulled a crowd for an indycar event. The last time any of them did was in the 90's as CART races. The split alienated one hell of a lot of fans and rit;s painfully obvious, they aren't coming back and the ADDgenerations simply don't give a rats behind about oval racing. We're talking 15 years of apathy there. If Indycar is going to race at tracks like that, then everyone might as well forget about TV, major sponsorships and top level drivers. They might as well run tube frame sprint cars and charge $12 a head for that kind of a crowd.Quote:
Originally Posted by SarahFan
Well, the attendance at Las Vegas was worser than at Milwaukee and New Hampshire. New Hampshire wasn't even that bad. How the hell no one is attending those races? I mean Texas always has a "good" attendance, why Milwaukee, Las Vegas and New Hampshire are failing that much then? Maybe Las Vegas should've been a night race anyway. They could try this with Milwaukee. I'm one of the "new guys" in IndyCar racing, and as much as I like road/street racing, it's nothing like racing on a 1 mile, a 1,5 mile, a 2 mile or a 2,5 mile oval.
40k at Baltimore just isn't enough....
80k for a few years to pay the infrastructure...... Buzz wheres off and you Settle into a nice 50 or 55k and the event can make it......
The 15-20k the ovals are getting and/or the 40 ft Lauderdale is likely to get are getting the series it's teams and the racers no where .....QUICK
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Originally Posted by nigelred5
What we got here folks is CART envy Champcar execution
Original. Same comment from three different posters at TF... ;)
As has been said, South Florida is a wasteland for attracting sports fans, and the series simply doesn't draw well enough to pull large numbers of fans from outside of the local markets in most instances, even in warm weather resort areas. The only sport that draws a consistent crowd is a 'Caines football game and even that has gone down since moving to Dolphins stadium. It's a shame Sanchez built Homestead in Homestead but the real state was REAL cheap after Andrew.
What I don't ever see evidence of is all of these independent promoters that show up to promote street races trying to team up with permanent racing facilities trying to partner up on events.
That poster at TF is me btw
What is the point of bringing back oval race were the attendance has been poor at best.
That said I would like the return of (3) 500 mile races.
Of course I would like to see Michigan return if somehow they can boost attendance.
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Originally Posted by nigelred5
NASCAR At Homestead sells out and Don't forget Sebring which draws 100,000+ every year.
Nascar is the season Finale.. as we know NASCAR travels well in RV's. NASCAR fans are well accustomed to bringing their own accomodations and their own party. There's more RV's at the average NASCAR race than spectators at an Indycar race unfortunately. Indycar drew flies at homestead, just like the Dolphins, Marlins, Panthers, even the Heat doesn't sell our 100% of the time. Sebring is Florida's Preakness. It's not the largest race in the sport, but it is a very prominent race and draws one hell of a party. and just like hte Preakness, the #1 question always is: How many of those 100K are even aware there is a race (or even conscious) for the majority of the 24 hours? Why has Indycar or CART before them never held a race at Sebring? They know it won't draw as many flies as a dead armadillo.