Lewis is too impatient for the rules ?Quote:
Originally Posted by ArrowsFA1
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Lewis is too impatient for the rules ?Quote:
Originally Posted by ArrowsFA1
I think the article is suggesting that previously Lewis, as an instinctive racer, could use that instinct to great effect. Now KERS and more particularly DRS mean that overtaking takes place at a specific point on any given circuit. I think it's fair to portray that as being too impatient, or unable to contain his instinct, but I can see Hughes's point that effectively the rules are removing a key strength of Hamilton's skill as a racing driver.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bagwan
One of my key complaints about DRS is that it does legislate where passing should take place, or at least is most likely to succeed. Add to that the increasing involvement of the rule book in what drivers can and cannot do then, just maybe, Hughes has a valid point. There doesn't seem to be any such thing as a "racing incident" anymore i.e. one where there was no intent, just a simple (and frequently) slight error.
If the rule book penalises drivers for simple errors then it's more likely that drivers won't attempt passes without the help of DRS, and therefore passes will take place at the same point on the circuit for lap after lap. All very clinical, but not very exciting for me I'm afraid. I'd rather drivers like Lewis Hamilton be able to use their instinct, and that we accept that errors may be made.
An interesting angle but poorly executed:Quote:
Originally Posted by ArrowsFA1
I think its more down to gut instinct based on aggression than tactics.Quote:
Very few drivers seemed consistently able to pull off passing moves, although exceptions such as Ayrton Senna, Nigel Mansell and Juan Pablo Montoya spring to mind. They were guys who seemed to have a different sense of the narrative of a move and understood the limits of depth perception and braking feel.
I wholeheartedly agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by ArrowsFA1
The guy Hamilton was overtaking didn't turn in on him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Matthew
Not when people are constantly taken out and/ or their races are compromised.Quote:
Originally Posted by ArrowsFA1
It's not the first time that the new regs/ tires have effected driver's style, yet Hamilton seems to be either a little stubborn in realizing that he needs to change or simply he doesn't have the ability to make the adjustments. If that's the case, then Massa might be correct in suggesting "You'll win a lot more Championships, if you keep that up"
I can't help it, I have to converse with you from time to time ;) :p :Quote:
Originally Posted by The Black Knight
I agree if there is intent by one driver to "take out" another as Senna did to Prost at Suzuka. That kind of thing should result in a heafty penalty. However, there is a clear difference between that and genuine "racing incidents".Quote:
Originally Posted by kfzmeister
When making the comparison it's hard to understand now how Senna wasn't penalised for that, and yet Hamilton makes a slight misjudgment (no intent) in Singapore and is penalised.
that is a key point I made in another thread, or earlier in this one, I can't remember...Quote:
Originally Posted by SGWilko
Anyway, As I said, it takes two willing drivers to make a pass and more often than not F1 drivers these days are more unwilling to accept being passed.
Oddly enough the guy who has shown the most class in being passed is Alonso. He understands when he is beat and instead of turning into the car and then complaining afterwards about his race being compromised, he accepts the pass and lives to fight back at another time. Like I said, If Webber's pass on Alonso was on Massa instead, it would have all ended in tears.
To me the worst offenders are Webber, Massa, Maldonado, and Schumi.
I suppose many things weren't encountered then, so rules were written as they went along. Kinda like still today. But mostly because they (Balestre) were pushing the envelope already by switching Prost to the dry side of the track for his P2.Quote:
Originally Posted by ArrowsFA1
Finally found time to read this thread again.
The following is a bit off-topic but is somewhat connected to the race ban idea that has been mentioned several times here.
If I remember correctly, then Vettel would lose the title only if he doesn't get any points from the coming rounds and Button wins all the remaining races. A question to the race ban supporters: What would you suppose to happen when Hamilton would take out Vettel in all the remaining races?