Osama Bin Laden Is Dead

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Originally Posted by Daniel

I disagree. The guy was repsonsible for a lot of deaths. his death is a good thing

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But so is George W Bush, infact i'd say that GWB has much more lives on his concious then OBL.
Almost 6000 Americans have been killed in the two wars started by GWB.
Add to that the civilian casualties in Iraq and Afghanistan and GWB is hardly an "innocent man".
Which is 100'000+ just in Iraq and 10'000+ in Afghanistan.

4400 of them have died in Iraq. and 1500 have been killed in Afghanistan. source= US department of Defence.

http://projects.washingtonpost.com/fallen/
http://siadapp.dmdc.osd.mil/personne...aths-total.pdf
http://siadapp.dmdc.osd.mil/personne.../oefdeaths.pdf
http://siadapp.dmdc.osd.mil/personne...LTY/castop.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_Iraq_War
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afghanistan_war

so if OBL is a cruel monster what does that make GWB?

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Originally Posted by 555-04Q2

How do we know that he is actually dead? Has a picture of his body been confirmed?

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the only evidence we have is that the USA officials says he's dead.

^^^^ I know you are playing devils advocate but are you really comparing Bin Laden with George W Bush?

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Originally Posted by Garry Walker

Didnt BBC make the same mistake?

Death of scum like Osama is great news, I will open a champagne bottle today evening to celebrate it with friends. The only sad things about his death is that I didnt get the opportunity to take a piss on his corpse and that he wasnt subjected to a 6 month continuous rape by homosexual rapists, which he so richly would have deserved.
But dont worry Eki, I am sure you will find a new hero soon.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hfYJsQAhl0

Yeah, it is a shame so few were celebrating the death of such scum.

Many of these people had their loved ones die a horrendous death due to this scum, I would have celebrated too.

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To me it seems that Americans can never do anything right. Whatever they do, they are always criticised.[/QUOTE]There is a bunch of people who attack USA for whatever they do, forgetting that without USA the world would be a much poorer and worse place.


That is the worst thing about it[/QUOTE]

This is a great post and I agree with it 100% - I find it quite interesting that the anti- American sentiment on this forum by and large condemns us for killing this POS. There will always be the argument about our Global influence and frankly I am good with less intervention. You guys will have no appreciation until you are attacked like we were. Yes I know all you TIREs are going to say we wouldn't have if we stayed at home. Maybe so but the long and short of it is:
1. Don't Attack this country
2. Keep on and something is going to end up "glowing" for a long time.

I have seen a post condemning Guantanamo which is so stupid of course unless you support the no prisoners stance. I think Guantanamo is great for terrorists.

Markabilly's post was very good also - Dave B and a few others are totally disgusting

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Originally Posted by Roamy

This is a great post and I agree with it 100% - I find it quite interesting that the anti- American sentiment on this forum by and large condemns us for killing this POS. There will always be the argument about our Global influence and frankly I am good with less intervention. You guys will have no appreciation until you are attacked like we were. Yes I know all you TIREs are going to say we wouldn't have if we stayed at home. Maybe so but the long and short of it is:
1. Don't Attack this country
2. Keep on and something is going to end up "glowing" for a long time.

I have seen a post condemning Guantanamo which is so stupid of course unless you support the no prisoners stance. I think Guantanamo is great for terrorists.

Markabilly's post was very good also - Dave B and a few others are totally disgusting

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Surely Roamy, you must agree that fanning the flames is never a good thing. I applaud the US for doing the right thing with Osama's body and burying it within 24 hours of death. If they hadn't this would have given more fuel to the terrorists and that of course is a bad thing.

I think you'll find that most people DON'T condemn the USA for killing Ozzy, most feel that this is OK, or that perhaps it would have been better if it went to trial. Personally I don't see the point in a trial when the guy has publicly admitted what he ordered. Dead or alive, all that matters is that he now can't give orders. To have done the things to his body that garry was suggesting would merely give some moron the fuel he needs to launch another attack on the US or its allies and that would be the ultimate way of giving Ozzy what he wanted.

I think it will be impossible to say whether the war on terrorism has been a success or was even necessary (we'd require a parallel universe to see what life would have been like without it). The natural course that things have taken seems to be that these radical muslims started killing their own less radical people and that was always going to cause the power base of factions like Al Qaeda to shrink. The the recent revolutions seem intent on securing democracy rather than bringing about oppressive regimes says that the vast majority of muslims simply want a prosperous life for themselves with a good dose of freedom and couldn't give a flying **** about other countries and just want their own house in order.

"When thy enemy shall fall, be not glad, and in his ruin let not thy heart rejoice."--Proverbs. 24:17

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Originally Posted by Dave B

I find it rather distateful that people are celebrating the death of Bin Laden,

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Oh do grow a backbone.

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it would have been far preferable if he'd been put on trial.

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Why? How would that have improved things at all? You think he would have been less of a martyr for jihadists then? Or that it is somehow unjust to shoot someone like him without a trial (during the trial we should have of course provided to him the best facilities to make sure his human rights are not breached)?

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That said I won't exactly lose any sleep that he's dead, but I do wonder at the sanity of people who believe the world is somehow a magical safe place where the biggest risk to our safety is tripping over a rainbow and stabbing yourself on a unicorn's horn.

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Who here has stated this? Find quotes please. What people have said that justice has taken place and a small step towards making the world a better place has been made. I have yet to see anyone say that there is no threat from terrorism anymore.

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Originally Posted by BleAivano

But so is George W Bush, infact i'd say that GWB has much more lives on his concious then OBL.
Almost 6000 Americans have been killed in the two wars started by GWB.
Add to that the civilian casualties in Iraq and Afghanistan and GWB is hardly an "innocent man".
Which is 100'000+ just in Iraq and 10'000+ in Afghanistan.

4400 of them have died in Iraq. and 1500 have been killed in Afghanistan. source= US department of Defence.

http://projects.washingtonpost.com/fallen/
http://siadapp.dmdc.osd.mil/personne...aths-total.pdf
http://siadapp.dmdc.osd.mil/personne.../oefdeaths.pdf
http://siadapp.dmdc.osd.mil/personne...LTY/castop.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_Iraq_War
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afghanistan_war

so if OBL is a cruel monster what does that make GWB?

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I dont know what that makes of GWB, but I know that for you to post such stuff can only mean that you are one of the biggest candidates for the heavyweight imbecile championship of the world. In fact, having again read your shi... post, congrats on winning the title.

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Originally Posted by Roamy

This is a great post and I agree with it 100% - I find it quite interesting that the anti- American sentiment on this forum by and large condemns us for killing this POS. There will always be the argument about our Global influence and frankly I am good with less intervention. You guys will have no appreciation until you are attacked like we were. Yes I know all you TIREs are going to say we wouldn't have if we stayed at home. Maybe so but the long and short of it is:
1. Don't Attack this country
2. Keep on and something is going to end up "glowing" for a long time.

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America is not perfect and has made mistakes, but that comes with the territory of being the most powerful country in the world. Would the world be better off if the biggest super power in the world was Russia/Soviet Union or China?

I find the fact that my post has "disgusted" fousto and upset Garry rather pleasing. :)

what's the difference?

http://www.supercars.net/pitlane/pic...5/3368460d.jpg

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Originally Posted by Dave B

I find the fact that my post has "disgusted" fousto and upset Garry rather pleasing. :)

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:rotflmao: :rotflmao:

Dont worry, you didnt. It takes a bit more than a comment from some internet sissy for me to get upset.