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Originally Posted by Bob Riebe
By the very late sixties, I went from one extreme where race was always an issue...to the other, where I never noticed race one way or the other--and it was never a subject for conversation, initiated by me; the only exception is where someone else started making it an issue
If it were the same for you, you would not have brought the subject up nor being using these names for Obama
Whatever works for you, Bob. My cousin is taking an AP Econ course in high school. So I was trying to help him with an assignment by (fully) explaining supply side economics to him. But like you, the lad just wants easy, quick answers to everything. Everything I said that was in deep detail was just "blah, blah, blah" to his young ears. I guess even old men can have young ears. *sigh*Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob Riebe
On this particular topic, as I said, I'm not well versed on oil spills or using nuclear weapons to contain them. And as I also said, you do not appear to be either. So going off the deep end when not everyone jumps on your bandwagon, that using a nuclear device would be an easy (safe) slam dunk, does invite skepticism about your ability to (calmly, rationally) reason things out.
As for how you see my posts, I've lived this long without your love. Somehow, some way... I think I'll make it without you for a bit longer. I know it won't be easy.... but I'll surely try. :rolleyes:
As an aside, maybe you should try to mix some comedy into your intraweb schtick. Think about it. That's what made it work for Walter Matthau. Hey, I'm just sayin'.
beef and kidney pies :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Roamy
Good one :D
See, you do not need me and I do not need you, http://foolstown.com/sm/ivn.gif I still believe you are too sensitive.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jag_Warrior
I saw pictures of suffering animals and destroyed waters. I think that humans are becoming the plague of this planet. I am very, very sad about what is happening. Hell is on Earth and we are creating it :(
you're not supposed to bring that up, you're supposed to rail against the Latinos.Quote:
Originally Posted by Roamy
Totally agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by F1boat
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Originally Posted by F1boat
Before you get sucked into the tragedy side of things a few salient points: 1) in the 50 years people have been drilling from platforms such as this, this is the FIRST incident of this sort. So to say offshore drilling is bad is as I said, like watching a house burn and decide don't build with wood no more. It is an overreaction. That said, BP dropped the ball and didn't follow the laws and didn't look after the enviroment. I am sure the US Gov't will make them pay for the clean up, and while this is an ecological disaster no doubt, the earth will bounce back in time if we put the time and effort into her recovery.
2) The attitude that we are becoming the plague of the planet then is to assume we should all not be on the planet since we are the problem. We are part of the planet, we are not a plague on it. We are part of the food chain, we belong here just like the pelicans or fish affected by this tragedy are. We have to do better, but we are not a plague. We are better than that, and we have to collectively try to do better by the planet, but the only constant on planet earth is change, and part of that change is our evolution as a technological species. In time, we will sort out how to be more ecologically friendly. That said, that computer you use to post on here is made with plastic. The gas in your car came from an oil well. Same one that oil that made the plastic did. Our existance on the planet with the comforts we have allows us to be more ecologically friendly with oil and technology. Take away oil, gas and the technology assocaited with it, and we are burning trees and starving. NEVER forget that....
With all due respect F1boat, this is hyperbole. While the disaster is terrible, it will be stopped, even if it takes a few months and the ocean will recover. As for oil in the water, that is nothing new as there is literally tons of oil already seeping into the Gulf of Mexico.Quote:
Originally Posted by F1boat
http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com...-all-first.php
The key difference of course is that this oil is seeping and not gushing from a single source, but the point is it will be stopped even if it takes until the relief well is dug, and recovery will take place faster than alarmists are predicting, because really the fact that crude oil is in the ocean water is not that big a deal. Right now it's just the point source concentration, but stop the gusher and it will disperse like normal.Quote:
A 2003 National Academies study estimated that about 980,000 barrels of oil, or about 41 million gallons, seep into the Gulf - every year. Recall that the Exxon Valdez is estimated to have spilled about 250,000 barrels.
The accident, as terrible as it is, is a product of success. With 4000 structures and 800+ manned platforms in the gulf, and 40 years since the Santa Barbara oil spill, we forget that we are fallible and accidents can happen. We'll tighten regulations, and go forward, because truthfully, I'd rather drill here, where we actually care about the environment and do something if an accident happens. Contrast this with Nigeria, who has had accidents and spills equal to or greater than the Exxon Valdez every year for the past 15 years, and nothing is ever done about it.
Yes...Nigeria. Their spills don't seem to be on the news every night when they happen. BP is just getting hammered because of bad pr then...lol...and the fact they are clueless!Quote:
Originally Posted by Alexamateo
You are right...but I did forget about the Santa Barbara spill 40 odd years ago...