Stefan GP, to take part in the 2010 ?

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11th February 2010, 07:32
racepode1

One Chance less for Stefan, Campos Finally Sold hes team to VW acording to spanish press
http://www.as.com/motor/articulo/for...asdaimot_1/Tes
http://www.as.com/opinion/articulo/e...asdaiopi_8/Tes
11th February 2010, 09:29
Sarac330d

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Originally Posted by truefan72

probably has the roman Abrahmovich Oligarchs type of connections.

I know that I should be more wary of the sources of some of these guys, but I suppose if they go clean with the money then fine. Rather he invest in F1 than invest in some unseemly businesses. I do think that he has the funds to do what he needs to do. Securing funds for a national series that nobody watches or cares is a much tougher sell than securing funds to be in F1. With the right negotiating skills and a decent business plan along with the opportunity to pick a ready made team, it would seem more than attractive to many investors, national or international. I think they are for real. Or at least more prepared than Campos or USF1.

Exactly that is reason why we in Serbia don`t believe in this Stefan GP thing. People who are much familiar with Mr. Zoran Stefanovic are saying that he is not such big player so he can get good conections and sponsorships. Some people talked that he has some connection is Russia, but i think that is impossible knowing Mr. Stefanovic, becouse why would some Russian businessman invest in some Serbian F1 Team and race under Serbian flag. They can do it under Russian flag.

But everything is possible, we will wait and see in future. My personal opinion is that is not going to be anything from this Stefan GP.
11th February 2010, 17:44
truefan72

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Originally Posted by Sarac330d

Exactly that is reason why we in Serbia don`t believe in this Stefan GP thing. People who are much familiar with Mr. Zoran Stefanovic are saying that he is not such big player so he can get good conections and sponsorships. Some people talked that he has some connection is Russia, but i think that is impossible knowing Mr. Stefanovic, becouse why would some Russian businessman invest in some Serbian F1 Team and race under Serbian flag. They can do it under Russian flag.

But everything is possible, we will wait and see in future. My personal opinion is that is not going to be anything from this Stefan GP.

1. Try not to look at this as a serbian thing with Serbian implications
2. F1 is a global sport and money knows no boundaries. If his russian connections are true, then they would have no qualms investing in the team, no matter where they are from. its 2010 and rich businessmen, of dubious backgrounds or clean, are not really interested in nationalistic pride as they are at placing their money in quality spots. (BTW I hear that even the Serbian govt. is subsidizing part of this team.)
3. I think Stefen GP is way further advanced than 3 of the 4 new entrants. While you have your personal opinion, the facts and news about them contradict that. They bought the Toyota F1 team, they have hired Collin Koles, they have already shipped parts to Bahrain, they are ready to do testing any day now, etc, etc, etc.

Sounds to me like you have some issue with the man and would rather believe the worst and see them fail rather than just being happy that there might be another f1 team on the grid.
12th February 2010, 03:14
Saint Devote

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Originally Posted by Robinho

thats very interesting, and kind of fortifies my doubts about him and his team - i have a nagging doubt that he has a shady history to rival Flav, if not to exceed. interesting to hear fears from a Serb national, you'd expect that there would be some hype back home for the project.

And when did sainthood become a requirement to be an F1 boss? Smearing people is something of an internet specialty.

Can't stand this kind of message - it always smacks of resentment that so many in this modern day and age have for highly successful people.

Flavio was highly succesful in F1. He was responsible for leading a team that gave the two top drivers on the grid today, Alonso and Schumacher, consecutive world titles.

Instead that is all forgotten.
13th February 2010, 11:33
Dr. Krogshöj

Sarac330d, I am also a bit skeptical about Stefan GP. What worries me is that the so called AMCO corporation positions itself as a big industrial firm, but if one takes a good look at their website (http://www.amco.st), it's really amateurish. There is very little information about them on the internet too. At best, AMCO seems to be a reseller of industrial IT solutions. What is really what this obscure company does? Who is Zoran Stefanovic - apart from being an apparent F1 enthusiast?
13th February 2010, 17:06
Robinho

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Originally Posted by Saint Devote

And when did sainthood become a requirement to be an F1 boss? Smearing people is something of an internet specialty.

Can't stand this kind of message - it always smacks of resentment that so many in this modern day and age have for highly successful people.

Flavio was highly succesful in F1. He was responsible for leading a team that gave the two top drivers on the grid today, Alonso and Schumacher, consecutive world titles.

Instead that is all forgotten.

Rubbish - i have great respect for what Flav acheived in F1, even more so given that he had no prior interest in the sport, but dig deeper and the guy was a crook, and his connections with former bosses and colleagues who were blown up and the unsolved bomb plots on his properties in more recent times tell me more about the mans character than you ever will.

he didn't give us Schumacher, he poached him (very cleverly) at the right time, and i don't think Alonso would have failed to get where he did without Flavs management, he had too much talent to have been ignored.

he's a highly successful and driven man, but i fail to see why i should bow down and ignore the sadier elements to his life just because you choose to deify him
14th February 2010, 02:23
52Paddy

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Originally Posted by Robinho

Rubbish - i have great respect for what Flav acheived in F1, even more so given that he had no prior interest in the sport, but dig deeper and the guy was a crook, and his connections with former bosses and colleagues who were blown up and the unsolved bomb plots on his properties in more recent times tell me more about the mans character than you ever will.

he didn't give us Schumacher, he poached him (very cleverly) at the right time, and i don't think Alonso would have failed to get where he did without Flavs management, he had too much talent to have been ignored.

he's a highly successful and driven man, but i fail to see why i should bow down and ignore the sadier elements to his life just because you choose to deify him

Well put :up:
14th February 2010, 02:42
Saint Devote

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Originally Posted by Robinho

Rubbish - i have great respect for what Flav acheived in F1, even more so given that he had no prior interest in the sport, but dig deeper and the guy was a crook, and his connections with former bosses and colleagues who were blown up and the unsolved bomb plots on his properties in more recent times tell me more about the mans character than you ever will.

he didn't give us Schumacher, he poached him (very cleverly) at the right time, and i don't think Alonso would have failed to get where he did without Flavs management, he had too much talent to have been ignored.

he's a highly successful and driven man, but i fail to see why i should bow down and ignore the sadier elements to his life just because you choose to deify him

I have no idea what you are talking about - but my answer to you, is, that my interest in Flavio is formula one. Outside of that is irrelevant and is NONE OF YOUR OR MY BUSINESS.

You may seek also to minimize Flavio's F1 achievements but it remains that he was the one with whom Alonso and Schumacher each won consecutive WDC's with a team he turned around.

Thats leadership and ability to recognize drivers BEFORE they have become champions and provide the opportunity for them and take on that risk.

Alonso was the only individual in F1 NOT to turn his back on Flavio and he showed that moral courage publicly. What a difference between him and Hamilton who participated in the scapegoating of Davey Ryan.

Its rough out there and if you want lilly-white souls I am afraid you will be left with the silence of the wind blowing.

I would love to see Flavio return to Renault. With Kubica he would mould another champion. Unfortunately the politics of F1 would prevent that.

Deify Flavio? I would not lower myself to make him into a god. I prefer those who are superior to gods, human beings.
14th February 2010, 03:06
52Paddy

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Originally Posted by Saint Devote

I have no idea what you are talking about - but my answer to you, is, that my interest in Flavio is formula one. Outside of that is irrelevant and is NONE OF YOUR OR MY BUSINESS.

I'm not trying to butt in here but it might be worth me saying: some people view situations in a broader context. You solely judge Flavio on his F1 success and greatness but don't take into account his external flaws at least. Others do. Neither is wrong in my opinion, but this makes an argument difficult to go anywhere at all.

I'll be quiet for now. :)
14th February 2010, 03:27
gloomyDAY

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Originally Posted by 52Paddy

I'm not trying to butt in here but it might be worth me saying: some people view situations in a broader context. You solely judge Flavio on his F1 success and greatness but don't take into account his external flaws at least. Others do. Neither is wrong in my opinion, but this makes an argument difficult to go anywhere at all.

I'll be quiet for now. :)

Get out of here you drunk Mick! Stop making all that sense. :D

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