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Yep. And it's absolutely understandable as the FIA is trying to cut all the links between Flav and any FIA sanctioned event. This will push the drivers to change search for another manager, that's all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alfa Fan
PS: All this has been discussed in the first few pages of this thread.
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Originally Posted by henners88
Ron favored Lewis and Flav favored Alonso, that's right. Where did I say that Ron was deciding the strategy?! Ordering that 'driver X has to get the better strategy' doesn't exactly equal deciding the strategy for the race just which driver will be favored within the team.Quote:
Originally Posted by henners88
That's what I'm trying to explain. They might have the authority but in 99% of the cases don't have the knowledge to do so, so they don't do it.Quote:
Originally Posted by henners88
AFAIK Flav might have had the idea of the crash but he proved it in numerous occasions that when it comes to anything technical he is pants.
Also I'm pretty sure that having the board of directors decide the race strategy is unheard of in F1.
Symonds is the first and last man who had a say in the strategy department at Renault.
If you read the leaked documentation about the Crashgate you probably also stumbled over the part where Alonso's engineer questions Symonds strategy decision but he can not override it and Symonds has the last say in the matter.
So in the end the proof was some little blackmailing fag with telemetry that fits his driving style that took down the cheating empire. Well now that he is banned for life I wonder if Flav will come back and spill the beans about the "Ioan God"
I don't get the verdict. Renault as a team get of lightly because the individuals within team acted badly?? Briatore and Symonds and Piquet sound like Renault team to me. Kick Renault out. Can't anyone explain when the team/organisation is corrupted and when are individuals corrupted? How many individuals/persons has to be corrupted before a entire team can be kick out?
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Originally Posted by ioan
ok now i don't understand what your getting at - i was just wondering if, maybe, Renaults fit of honesty was a result of the previous punishments handed out by the FIA. nothing to do with the court.
if so its good that the FIA's stance has resulted in teams not being willing to risk fighting something they are guilty of due to the fear or the consequences of losing.
I agree that Briatore needed to be punished, but I think that the FIA went way overboard. After all, Briatore fixed the result on ONE race. McLAren, instaed, for trying to win the whole champioship. Yet Flavio gets banned for life and instead McLAren got a fine.Yes a big one, but nobody got banned for life. Nobody!!! Therefore my feeling is that what we eyewitnessed here is not a punishement but a true revenge. What else can it be? They waited ONE year to actually come up with all this?? ONE year??? It was not justice that Mosley was after. It was revenge.
Yeah but Renno FIXED a race, McLaren didn't.
We'll see whether this ban will stand with the new president. And Flavio was going to retire sooner or later anyway. He has no time to discover a third great after MS and Alonso and the third one would have been likely lured by Ferrari again :-)
Who know. As I said earlier, maybe yes maybe not.Quote:
Originally Posted by Robinho
It might be that they took this stance given that they know that the FIA will throw the book at them.
It might as well be that Renault would have acted like this anyway.
I guess only the top bras at Renault know exactly.
With Flav out of Renault, maybe he'll run to become the new president. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by F1boat